(Business Perspective) Does MS really need Xbox Hardware?

[DonFerrari]

Azzanation said:

DonFerrari said:

I have made several posts here and not really wanting to repost.

But summarizing, as a customer I would have no need for MS to keep in the market, as business side for MS it makes sense to still be on the market and basically I agree with all the points for doing so that Ryu brought forward.

Ryu's posts aren't valid. As a buisness it makes zero sense for MS to waste resources in the Hardware market, hence why they have been thinking of exiting almost every generation. MS know where the money is and wont be second guessing themselves every gen if console hardware is where its all at.

Also if you agree with Ryu than you want Xbox to be in the market, so you are contradicting yourself here.

As a customer you are happy to see them fold. Thats all you needed to say.

Ryu's posted a very comprehensive show of why it makes financial sense for MS to still make hardware for the near future, you didn't refuted with evidence or analysis none of his points. So no point in keep answering you on this.

No I'm not contradicting myself. I said that MYSELF don't need MS to keep making Hardware because as a customer I don't care about them. But YOU are asking about if MS should still make Hardware from a business perspective, so my answer when looking from MS POV is that they should. They don't come anywhere near contradiction.

You ask about Business perspective and then come to the customer position to defend your point. Seems like you are confusing and contradicting yourself.

Azzanation said:

DonFerrari said:

Even in perfect world a single platform would still be problematic. Because if you don't have to make games to show off your console them I won't need to invest on games that may not give direct profit but turns out being great games that niches love.

The best selling games are Minecraft and Fortnite.

And what does that have to do with anything?

Azzanation said:

Manlytears said:

This thread still going!? Pretty sure Ryuu96 alredy explained with rich details the advantages of Xbox hardware side.

Nope he hasnt.

Machiavellian said:

As a consumer, I always need Sony to feel MS right behind them ready to flip the status quo and Sony to push to keep it.  Case in point, I just purchased Sony PS Extra because Sony is selling it for 36 bucks for the whole year.  Why do you believe Sony is heavily discounting PS+ Extra, because of GP of course.  With no competition, there would be no need for Sony to provide this discount and we as consumers benefit from competition between them both as each seeks to secure customers.

You not trusting Sony isnt MS problem. As a customer i want to see MS focus on making great games, not great consoles that dont sell.

Epic was upsetting more people by taking games off Steam weeks before release. Valve has been doing just great as the sole major PC platform. It does not need competition. Competition breeds bad behaviours like we have seen.

Sega didn't kill themselves, they couldnt compete. History shows Sega and Nintendo was healthy. The moment a 3rd enters, someone ends up exiting. Just look at all the companies who left the industry. The proof shows. Only 2 can maintain enough momentum. 

Give Sony the Monopoly and let them do what they want, i dont care. MS will benefit from other platforms more. It won't affect me or MS as a whole. Console market is considered niche in the tech world.

ABK is worth $70b as a 3rd party publisher. Doing pretty well without hardware. You can try to debate it, the evidence is all here as a buisness standpoint, MS needs to drop the hardware asap so they can be the biggest gaming publisher. 

Seems quite clear that you really don't understand business even though you claim a lot you do. Sega was making lousy decisions since they started the idea of the Sega 32x, Sega CD and it only got worse on architecture decision for Saturn (like improvising the 3D chip for it), so sure Sony likely made their life even worse (as their decisions on Dreamcast show), but they were doing the bad decisions by themselves long before Sony even entered the console market and just to remember Playstation only really started to get traction with the launch of FFVII.