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Machiavellian said:
EpicRandy said:

with Redfall I think MS should make a public statement converting the current state of Redfall to an alpha release and automatically refund 50% of the game to all buyers (still offering them the possibility of a full refund of course). Then commit to fixing issues and adding content. There's no lack of titles that successfully turned a bad release into a successful title later, I'm sure Arkane Austin wants nothing less than the possibility to redeem themselves with great updates, and so does MS.

I am not sure about that, you go down that route and you have to basically do it for any game.  While the game does have its issues, its not broken.  There are no bugs that I can see that stops you from finishing the game.  I believe that Arkane with probably the help of some studios proficient in Unreal or even an engine change if that helps can probably fix the game with some updates but going down the refund route can open MS up to a lot of ligations type situations which just isn't a situation they want.  Interesting enough, usually Redfall has a huge watching community on Twitch.  It might be one of those games where it starts ruff but turn a curve later this year.

Well, you'd only have to do it on titles with such levels of issues as Redfall. I did not play the game yet but the DF review seemed very honest about its state. There is a bug that can happen that will prevent you from finishing the mission and you'd have to reboot the title and lose progression to overcome it. 

I don't think it would set a bad precedent either, MS already extended their refund option with Cyberpunk and there's no reason they should not do so here as well, both title initial states are very comparable after all. 

Converting it to an alpha release and automatically partially refunding every buyer may be overkill, but I think in the end it'll work in MS's favor and act as a promise that MS would take financial responsibility for such a blunder reassuring potential future pre-ordering users in the process.

This is the df review I am referring to :