Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

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Cobretti2 said:

Ryuu96 said:

Well...If this isn't all one big bluff then technically Wagner still hasn't taken Bakhmut, Lol.

If it's not a bluff then he's playing a very dangerous game, I don't see Putin letting him live if he becomes useless to him.

Still feels like a bluff, I'll believe it when all the Wagnerites have fucked off out of Ukraine.

Well I see it playing out three ways:

1) It is a bluff like you said, and then they will pretend it was a war tactic to make Ukrainians think they were leaving to save face and not get killed

2) He is playing a dangerous game as he believes it will help destabilise Putin's hold in Russia and he thinks he has a chance and gaining some form of high power

3) He is playing a dangerous game without thinking and will get killed by Putin

Also I’m not sure if it’s entirely Wagner in Bakhmut. There’s some Russian army regulars there and potentially some of these other PMCs that have been rumoured. I’m not convinced how Wagner leaving will actually play out, that is if it isn’t a feint.