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Hiku on 05 May 2023
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Azzanation said:
Hiku said:

Well this goes for any company. Without competition, they may be more likely to steer down the wrong path.

I don't think Xbox needs to outsell Playstation or Nintendo to be successful.
While I do agree that 3 consoles, from my personal point of view, always felt like at least one too many. But for others it's not an issue.

I think it's too early to determine if MS will drop out of the hardware business next gen since that's likely 5+ years away.
I think they'll try to continue even if they don't set any sales records or don't make too much money from it vs going full service mode, because there will be players who prefer their controlers, etc.

Hiko, i have been a Steam user for decades and to this day, with or without competition, they have done everything that supports me as a customer. You don't need competition if you can have faith with the company. Sounds weird I know, same can be said for Nintendo. The issue is MS and Sony clearly cannot be trusted and will run away with everything if they can. As a business standpoint, I don't see the need for a 3rd platform and to MS it's only a money drain just to sell subs. 

Xbox will still make controllers and still make games, its just the dedicated hardware the business needs to justify. 

Well, I did say "may be more likely".
But others have pointed out how Steam differs (privately held company) and that it does have competition. Even consoles. Which I agree with.

Azzanation said:
the-pi-guy said:

It's harder to sell subs without hardware.

You need to play 4D chess here. 

Sony won't allow GP or any Subs from MS to appear on PS, as long as they have to compete with Xbox hardware.

If MS drop the hardware front and give Sony full reigns on hardware creation, then Sony would allow a modified GP service. They won't turn down the opportunity of quality IPs because it will further boost their own hardware sales.

What kind of Game Pass do you envision Sony would allow on its platform?
Because the current one gives out 'free' third party games Day 1 that Sony want to be able to sell themselves.