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Just watched this video and Benji disagrees with some statements made by Phil about being 3rd and how they cant compete.

Benji for example mentions the turnaround from Wii U (only 13.56 million units sold) to the Switch. And he thinks games like Starfield can attract PS5 users to their Xbox ecosystem, without having them sell or abandon their PS5. If games are like Starfield are amazing, people cant ignore them and will buy Xbox consoles or/and Gamepass. Phil saying otherwise, makes him sound a bit like a defeatist.

It is a pretty long vid but I found it interesting.