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Captain_Yuri said:
JEMC said:

The game is a real mess, but trying to link that to planned obsolescence from Nvidia and AMD is ridiculous.

It's a joke relating to the current trend of people blaming the lack of vram to poor game performance when in fact the games aren't optimized to begin with and realistically shouldn't actually require as much vram as they are asking since they don't do anything visually spectacular. Cause if we go by that logic, all GPUs outside of a 7900XTX and 4090/3090 are obsolete cause they clearly weren't forwarding thinking enough. But we all know that's not the case.

Not wrong. However we need to keep in mind that AMD and nVidia use VRAM differently as well... Which is why in games when comparing VRAM usage between Radeon and Geforce, the numbers don't always line up.

For example... A while ago if the on-chip caches on Radeons filled up with vertices data, it would spill over into system memory, but eventually AMD changed that behaviour and had it spill over into VRAM instead. - It resulted in higher memory usage, but higher performance, but was less of an issue because AMD gave more memory anyway.

But in regards to nVidia specifically, nVidia actually has invested a shit-ton of time and resources into building and managing memory oversubscription issues... Hence the CUDA Unified Memory programming model, Micro-Mesh, merging duplicated meshes and more.

However... Like most nVidia propriety approaches, it's not industry standard so it requires developers to build for it specifically. (Hence why Open standards are better, it forces adoption.)

So it seems like games aren't optimized for the hardware, because they aren't... And wouldn't be an issue if the GPU's had more VRAM to start with, thus not necessitating the need to use those technologies.

VRAM is also all relative, lower tier GPU's simply don't need as much as it all comes down to how competently they can utilize all that space.

In saying that, I believe that 8GB is not enough on the 6600XT class GPU's, they need to be 10-12GB, which is where nVidia did the right thing with the 3060 at 12GB, but regressed with the 3060Ti at 8GB which sucks.

Lots of VRAM is the solution to shit optimization sadly.



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