JEMC said:
I actually think that, if the dead CPUs and boards are caused by high voltages, the blame lies exclusively on the motherboard makers that did a poor job with their BIOS. AMD said very clearly that the processors couldn't be overvolted for overclocks, but the partners allowed it, and here are the results.
It's so weird to find out that we'll get AMD's lower and mid-range GPUs before the high-end part (the 7900 are enthusiast class, out of most pockets). But it's also understandable, AMD has relied on RDNA2 products like the 6950 and 6800 to fight both the 4070Ti and 4070 so the new 7800 models would have to fight not only Ada, but also the older RDNA2 products. AMD has fallen victim of its own inability to launch Navi 32 on time. And it doesn't look good for the market when partners that work with both AMD and Nvidia refuse to have 7600 products at launch because they're not sure if they'll make enough money out of them. It's one of those things someone at AMD should take note of, for future situations.
AMD has several problems with the 7800 cards. One I explained above, but the other is that if the card performs too close to the 4070Ti, that will put the 7900XT in a bad position as hinch's comment proves. On the other hand, the 6800XT was close to the 3080 and the new card need to deliver a big enough generational jump to justify its existence, name and price. In other words, AMD is f*cked. |
Yea but if it's like one motherboard vendor, fair enough but this issue is appearing on Asrock and MSI boards. So if it's a case of every motherboard vendor experiencing the same problem, there's obviously some sort of a miss communication between AMD and the motherboard vendors. Cause we know those very same boards with Intel counterparts can really ramp up those watts and nothing happens to Intel CPUs unless you go extreme.
And yea, the problem with RDNA 3 is what is it's selling point exactly against Nvidia + RDNA 2 as you go down the stack. You go Nvidia if you want Ray Tracing/DLSS/Reflex. RDNA 3 has better Ray Tracing than RDNA 2 but Nvidia is still much better. RDNA 3 has significantly better Ai hardware vs RDNA 2 but no software to take advantage of it thus far. So FSR will be the same if you choose RDNA 2 or 3. So it will be interesting to see if they launch FSR 3 along side it and see if RDNA 3 gets any exclusive features with it.
Biggest problem AMD is having really is selling the remaining RDNA 2 quantities so they go out of stock. Then consumers would have no choice but to buy RDNA 3 or Lovelace. Despite RDNA 2 being discounted significantly over the past 6 months, especially compared to Ampere which was overproduced and largely remained MSRP outside of the super highend. HUBs findings show that Ampere is the one that is going out of stock to make way for Lovelace while RDNA 2 is still largely in stock. So hopefully for AMD, they will be able to sell the remaining RDNA 2 stock in time.
PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850
