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Chazore said:

Captain_Yuri said:

The thing is, if AMD was attempting to be the good guys, I'd agree. But you look at the RDNA 3 launch. They priced 7900XTX to $1000, fair enough but then they increased the price of what should have been the 7800XT to $900 and called it the 7900XT. Nvidia has released 4 GPUs so far. 4090, 4080, 4070 Ti and 4070. Where is Radeons answer? Why are they only selling those two high end products?

Like don't get me wrong, they are obviously better than Nvidia for now as they are at least discounting their previous generation GPUs but I don't see them as being "the good guys." During the crypto days, they were right there with Nvidia with pricing their products high and they made the universally hated 6500XT. Not to mention when you looked back during the CPU launches, when the Ryzen 5000 series launched and Intel had no competition, AMD kept the prices high on those CPUs. And when people asked for budget, they released the garbage tier 5600G and 5700G with it's PCI-E gen 3 gimp. Why? Cause fuck budget users clearly. Only when Intel started being competitive did AMD release actual budget CPUs at budget prices like the 5600 after 1.5 years.

So I don't really see a future with going Radeon. If they gained market leadership, they would absolutely be as shitty as Nvidia has been. So why would I buy into them and deal with their half baked features? Just cause they make their half baked features work on old GPUs? If I am buying a new GPU, why wouldn't I want the real deal?

The 1080 Ti was legendary and the 4090 is 110% no 1080 Ti. The problem is, I don't know if we will get another 1080 Ti hence why it's the next best thing from my view. Cause look at how many games the 4090 can play at 4k Native with Ray Tracing enabled at well over 60fps. It's pretty dang impressive

That's the thing, there are no good guys, not Nvidia, not intel and not even AMD.

As the Pirates 3rd film says "it's just good business".

AMD isn't discounting because they feel like it, it's because they have to primarily due to having such low market share, as well as bad mind share (People still think AMD's drivers are the same as they were a decade ago). I know Nvidia and AMD are banking and waiting on another crypto boom, and I know they'll likely jump right onto it, because it'll allow the scalpers to join in, the same scalpers AMD/Nvidia apparently hated and wanted to combat, but did no such thing...

Also, just because there's no future with Radeon, doesn't mean there is one with Nvidia, because I know deep down, Nvidia doesn't actually care what we want, because if you look at what they are currently interested and investing in, you can see that gaming isn't at the forefront anymore, it's AI and software.

We won't get another 1080ti, simply because of how it sold and how we all blabbed about it being this lightning in a bottle. Literally any intern could scour the net and search for us all gabbing about how good it was and it's price, and Nvidia can go "shit, we buggered that up, we clearly didn't wring them for enough cash, well we won't make that mistake again!".

Yea I agree that there are no good buys and the term "It's just good business." But that's why I went with Nvidia. Because in an era where all 3 companies are bad choices, Nvidia at least is pushing the boundaries and giving you an experience like no other. You get Ray Tracing which gives you visual experiences that far exceed anything consoles can deliver it is easily noticeable. You get DLSS which is Ai upscaling trained on Super Computers. You get Reflex which lowers the latency significantly with a click of a button. And it's not like any of those are gimmicks as all of them have been tested by many tech outlets and all of them have been proven to be significantly better than the alternative.

And yes, Nvidia is really into the whole Ai thing but so is Intel and AMD. You look at interviews and the direction that Intel and AMD are heading, they are investing loads of R&D into Ai because they know that it's the future. The difference is, Nvidia got there first and continues to innovate on features well ahead of both AMD and Intel. Why do you think RDNA 3 has gotten such a massive improvement in Ai capabilities over RDNA 2? Why do you think Lisa Su went up on stage and announced Ai acceleration for their upcoming CPUs? Just for shits and giggles?

Nvidia is not going to abandon their gaming sector just because datacenter makes more money for them. Cause by that logic, AMD and Intel would be abandoning the gaming sector as well because datacenter makes more money for them too. The reality is that Nvidia will continue to bring features generations ahead of AMD and maybe Intel for a premium price because it's a big chunk of their revenue. Now whether or not you think the premium price is worth it is another question entirely. Cause all some people need is a faster PS5 with all the benefits of pc gaming for a far cheaper price and there is nothing wrong with that.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 20 April 2023