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Captain_Yuri said:

 Imo the only way is for a competitor to come out with Nvidia features like DLSS and Nvidias RT performance but for a significantly cheaper price. I hope that Intel can do it cause AMD feels like they don't want to go that route. They would rather be a follower and let Nvidia set the prices and sell those who dislike Nvidia products with half baked features for less money and more vram. Where as Intel at least feels like maybe there could be something there. Happy to be proven wrong though.

But no one's going to do that though?.

Like that's the biggest issue going on with the market atm. AMD doesn't have Nvidia's capital to just magically whip out the same exact features, and then lower the price, and we know Intel isn't entirely consumer friendly either, and they are still playing the biggest game of catch-up, so I don't expect them to ever catch up to Nvidia's current stage, let alone 5yrs from now, when nvidia will undoubtedly be ahead again.

Nvidia knows this, that's why they are still playing with closed off tech, jacking up prices and spamming their own line of cards within a singular brand, because they know at some point, ppl are going to buy them, and this is also another big issue, ppl lack spines and patience. 

So really, when you think about it, there can be no "only way", because that way is simply not possible, not logically speaking, because one of Nvidia's competitors just doesn't have the capital and engi's needed, and as you said, seemingly doesn't want to go that route, and then there's Intel, who is taking an absolute eternity in tech years to catch up, and they also aren't full on consumer friendly, so really when you really stand back at look at the bigger picture, there isn't anyone left. No one is going to appear out of thin air to challenge Nvidia, at this point to challenge them tenfold and beyond what AMD/Intel are doing (it's really not possible, unless MS decides to, but would you trust MS after Windows 11 and how they treat Xbox?, I wouldn't, fuck naw, so who else is left?). 

You know how we have Timmy Tencent over in the corner bitching about Valve having a monopoly?, well that's what it actually looks like when Nvidia is the one who has it, not Valve.

Exactly why I bought a 4090. The market is fucked either way and it will either get better or it will get much worse. I am 30 years old with a good paying job, I want to play games with the best experience that PC has to offer and  I don't want to keep waiting for the Pascal moment that might never happen again. Even if Nvidia some how goes back to form with RTX 5000 series, is something else gonna cuck the market? Another Crypto boom as btc keeps trending upwards? Some weird Ai nonsense? Who knows.

The only thing that anyone knows for sure is that a 4090 a very fast GPU with all the premium features that will last for a very long time if needed. It's why I have been saying, do not buy any GPUs from this generation other than 4090 if you are going to upgrade. Because 4080, 7900XTX, 7900XT, 4070 Ti etc are just horribly priced for their performance. And if you are on a budget and need to upgrade now, buy RDNA 2. 6800XT at $500 is insane value. 6700XT for $350 is good value. 4070 in the current gpu climate ain't too bad either, especially if you can get it discounted below msrp.