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shikamaru317 said:

Ooof, just saw the like/dislike ratio on the 3rd Redfall character trailer and it's the worst ratio yet, almost 50/50. Between the poor IGN First gameplay and now this 30 fps only news, Redfall's momentum feels like it's almost dead in the water. I think Xbox badly needs to just delay the game until like July or August, and then make a really good Redfall gameplay demo for their Xbox Summer Showcase with some professional shooter players or at least Arkane's most skilled shooter skilled employees showing the game in it's best light in co-op. 

Why do you keep looking at it?

It's unfortunate but the like/dislike ratio isn't changing, even with a delay to August, the damage is already done and amplified by the fact that a lot of fanboys upset about Bethesda exclusivity who never had any intention of buying the game to begin with are jumping on the controversy, a 3 month delay isn't changing that, they'll just switch to another complaint.

Now I'm not saying there aren't justifiable complaints and I do think it should be delayed to August but the damage to marketing is already done, the marketing is now a write off. You're also unlikely to get a Redfall gameplay demo in the June showcase at this stage, it's too late, the showcases are planned months in advance and Redfall up until even today is still planned for a May release.

We also already have good gameplay but it's not doing anything to change the IGN damage. Ultimately the only thing they can do now is hope they have a good product on launch and if they do then that will make a lot of the run-up marketing irrelevant and we'll look back on this and laugh at how worried we were but that's only if the product is good.

This really reminds me of the Prey marketing, it had negativity the moment it was revealed because they pissed off the Prey fanbase right from the start, they took Prey's IP/Name and slapped it onto a game which looked absolutely nothing like Prey. It would be like if Call of Duty renamed itself as Halo but still looked and played exactly like Call of Duty, Lol.

They were lucky that the Prey fanbase wasn't that big to begin with but it was a stupid marketing move to call it Prey and Bethesda themselves IIRC even admitted they only called it Prey to try to increase its sales, not because it had anything to do with Prey IP. The goofy IP shenanigans caused it negativity though in the marketing and reviews but people played it and realised it was actually a good game, if you look past the name.

Spade said:

Redfall is what we get for the trolling and bashing of the great war of Forespoken vs. HiFi Rush

I'm sure karma will come right back around.. namely Activision and hopefully some new studios to play with.

I was trashing Square Enix Sony has nothing to do with Forespoken aside from tossing Square a cheque.

But some definitely seem to value their titles depending on how much console warring they can get out of them.

VersusEvil said:

FF16 60FPS? when even SE are more competent than you then it’s probably time to call it quits. Should have let Redfall stay as a PS5 exclusive

Tbf. It's Final Fantasy, if Square fucked up Final Fantasy they'd be in real deep shit, it's literally their biggest IP, Lol.

They put the vast majority of their effort into Final Fantasy to the detriment of a lot of their other projects.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 14 April 2023