| Captain_Yuri said: Yea it's basically another Pascal to Turing situation where Pascal was god tier and Turing was hella lame. Ampere could have been another Pascal or but we all know what happened with crypto and now inflation and etc. Now I am not excusing Nvidia cause they are absolutely taking advantage of a shitty situation. But that is what it is because Nvidia is stupidly greedy so the GPU choices are once again horrid. As far as a stop gap situation goes, it depends on your situation really. RDNA 2 has depreciated quite heavily which is a good thing for a stop gap solution because when it comes time to sell the 6700XT, you should get a good amount of money back, especially if you time it right. But it also depends on the games that you would be playing. Cause all a 6700XT is, is a faster Raster GPU. It won't give you much in terms of Ray Tracing, FSR is terrible at anything lower than 4k, the switch emulation if you are in to that can be a bit wonky with Radeon and no Reflex either. So if you want a stop gap solution because your 1070 simply can't keep up with the games you want to play, then imo, 6700XT is a great stop gap solution. But if all you play is games like Overwatch where a 1070 is still plenty capable, then it might not be worth getting cause a 1070 is already a "stop gap" solution if you get what I am saying. |
True, its Turing (2.0) all over again. Really wanted the 4070 to be a great card as the 3070 and other Ampere cards were simply not available or so hard to get ahold of since more of its life. But greed got in the way of Nvidia, and AMD to a lesser extent. And now we're resorting to compare brand new cards on a linear scale with previous gen. Instead of looking at generational leaps at the same price point. The only improvements mostly being Nvidia's bank and the 4090.
Personally, I only really play older competitive games on PC; though I did complete TLOU recently. So it not exactly that I need a new GPU.. plus I have a PS5 to play the latest games. Its just I would nice to play some of my older games with mods and new stuff like Starfield without some heavy compromises.
If another 3 fan model drops again I'll probably get end up getting one. Since I don't hold much hope for the 7800XT. Unless we get leaks/news any time soon. Get that and hold out for Battlemage next year or Blackwell/RDNA 4.
| Chazore said: See to me, AI isn't even the big seller, because I see it as a mere band-aid, needed in order for those cut down cards to reach the "impressive" 100fps mark, when before that we used to just brute force or simply turn down settings. Take away the Ai this or that and the cards do a measly 50-60fps with RT, so basically same as first and partly 2nd gen, which feels like a comedic joke at this point with the yrs that have passed. I don't mind AI tech, but I wish AI GPU tech would stop being so heavily relied upon, because we're still stuck paying more money for hardware, when really we're now relying so heavily on the software side of things to do something our cards were able to do for decades. I'm prob gonna sit out this gen myself, because it's been pricy as hell, limited in stock, and most benches have to either rely on AI to make the results look decent, or not rely on AI and make the results look piddling as hell. Either way I'm not winning. Notice how Guru brought up the 1080ti multiple times in his vid?, haven't seen many benchers bring up that card in yrs now, so it's interesting to see him bring it up now of all times, with the 4000 series. |
Yep the raster performance hasn't moved much this generation outside of the flagship cards. And AMD is still nowhere to seen with their higher end/midrange cards. I think Ai to enhance performance without effecting image quality too much is cool, but yeah it shouldn't be needed to prop up a graphics card. And a $600 one at that. Plus the 12GB of VRAM is going to rear its ugly head in a couple years time when more and more games use more memory; not inclusing crappy optimisation.
Really looking at these cut down specs, its Nvidia charging us, more for less. And then passing the buck on DLSS 3 and other technologies to say we're giving you better performance. When its not really.
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