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hinch said:

Skimmed through a few reviews and idk man.. might sit out this gen at this rate.

Whats dissapointing me the most as the silicon gets cut down more and all the benefits gained from going to a massively improved node.. gets lost. With essentially the same RT performance as last gen with a slight price improvement and efficiency. And just Ai as the big seller. Shits so bad that even RDNA 2 cards compete with RT with these cards lol.

Chazore said:

Sounds like the 4070 is basically the slightly better 3080, and by that I mean close to what the Ti model would've been, just like the 1080ti was to the 1080 (not a huge gap between the two, but close enough).

$600 isn't as bad as I'd thought, let's see if it also sticks to that in the GBP region, and then I'll be thinking (since I paid around £600ish for my 1080ti with 12gb, that's about as much as I'd be willing to pay, but for a 70 series that still seems a tad steep).

Yeah I mean its not a bad card. £600, too is my upper limit for buying a new graphics card. Sadly the uplift in performance has stagnated a lot this generation. Still a big jump from our old Pascal cards though and decent performance. Okay in todays inflated prices but that's not saying much.

See to me, AI isn't even the big seller, because I see it as a mere band-aid, needed in order for those cut down cards to reach the "impressive" 100fps mark, when before that we used to just brute force or simply turn down settings.

Take away the Ai this or that and the cards do a measly 50-60fps with RT, so basically same as first and partly 2nd gen, which feels like a comedic joke at this point with the yrs that have passed. 

I don't mind AI tech, but I wish AI GPU tech would stop being so heavily relied upon, because we're still stuck paying more money for hardware, when really we're now relying so heavily on the software side of things to do something our cards were able to do for decades. 

I'm prob gonna sit out this gen myself, because it's been pricy as hell, limited in stock, and most benches have to either rely on AI to make the results look decent, or not rely on AI and make the results look piddling as hell. Either way I'm not winning. 

Notice how Guru brought up the 1080ti multiple times in his vid?, haven't seen many benchers bring up that card in yrs now, so it's interesting to see him bring it up now of all times, with the 4000 series.