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hinch said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Honestly that is still my recommendation outside of 4090 buyers. Buying neither Nvidia or Radeon feels good right now. Nvidia because of how greedy they are and AMD cause of a lack of features amongst other issues like with emulation.

There is a good amount of reasons to wait for next gen imo. GPU and PC shipments in general have massively gone down similar to Turning. The price and performance outside of flagship is largely unappealing like Turing. Nvidia should be switching to Samsung similar to Ampere. Nvidia is increasing their vram for the mid ranged every generation. There are new features like DLSS 3 and VSR that need some more updates to get their kinks worked out similar to Turing.

So I think there's a good chance that Blackwell will be similar to Ampere in terms of performance uplift for the price you pay. $600 could be the new price for the 5070 regardless but imo, the performance uplift would be worth the price by then. And they could potentially add in 16GB of vram for the 70 class as well.

Yeah, I mean if this were a traditional generation this would a 4060Ti tier card and priced $450-$500. And waiting nearing three years for this is just super underwhelming like the rest of the lower tier GPU's. To put this into perspective the 3060Ti was on par with a 2080 Super and launched at $399, or £369. This gen has 50% inflated cost over last gen.. and we're getting on par if not a little lower (DLSS 3 notwithstanding) than a regular 80 tier card of previous generation.

While I do think what Nvidia is doing with software is very cool and innovative.. their GPU pricing and naming shenannigans the last couple of years has been total garbage. Ampere prices stayed the same. The only other alternative is AMD with RDNA cards but they miss big features like Reflex and other really useful Nvidia proprietary features.

Not sure if its worth looking out for a deal now for a sub $300 as a stop gap. I feel we might see some major price drops for the 7900XT in the upcoming months. And perhaps the 7800XT could be sub-$500.

And true, moving price points I think sets them up with next gens 3nm costs. Though (like you said) we should at least we should see some good generational gains with an overhauled architecture. And by then RT should be viable on lower end cards.

Yea it's basically another Pascal to Turing situation where Pascal was god tier and Turing was hella lame. Ampere could have been another Pascal or but we all know what happened with crypto and now inflation and etc. Now I am not excusing Nvidia cause they are absolutely taking advantage of a shitty situation. But that is what it is because Nvidia is stupidly greedy so the GPU choices are once again horrid.

As far as a stop gap situation goes, it depends on your situation really. RDNA 2 has depreciated quite heavily which is a good thing for a stop gap solution because when it comes time to sell the 6700XT, you should get a good amount of money back, especially if you time it right. But it also depends on the games that you would be playing. Cause all a 6700XT is, is a faster Raster GPU. It won't give you much in terms of Ray Tracing, FSR is terrible at anything lower than 4k, the switch emulation if you are in to that can be a bit wonky with Radeon and no Reflex either.

So if you want a stop gap solution because your 1070 simply can't keep up with the games you want to play, then imo, 6700XT is a great stop gap solution. But if all you play is games like Overwatch where a 1070 is still plenty capable, then it might not be worth getting cause a 1070 is already a "stop gap" solution if you get what I am saying.

But what you could do is buy a 6700XT from amazon, use it for a week or two, see how you like it and if it's a worthy upgrade for the games that you play or want to play, keep it. Otherwise you can return it.



                  

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