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Bofferbrauer2 said:

So in short, the 4070 is a 3080 with an efficiency improvement and $100 off it's MSRP. At just 12GB Vram however, I fear it will run into a bottleneck here even faster than the 3070/Ti did - probably even before any next-gen GPUs get released.

Captain_Yuri said:

Pretty good card honestly even at $600 but after watching gamers nexus review, I didn't realize how cheap the 6950XT has gotten. If you can snag one of those or a 6900XT instead for around $600 brand new, it would be a better deal imo.

I checked in Europe at Mindfactory, and you can get a 6800 for 529€, 6800XT for 569€ and 6950XT for 649€. and if you go 20€ on the latter, you even get the Powercolor 6950XT Red Devil, which is pretty much the best 6950XT there is. So the 4070 really needs to be available at or very close to the MSRP or else the AMD cards should all be better value than the 4070. And if early price leaks from Asia are anything to come by, it doesn't look like the 4070 will be available for that price, at least not from the board partners.

Speaking of AMD, the 6700XT is already available for 379€, which will put the upcoming 4060/Ti into a tough spot in terms of pricing.

I agree with you about the 4070. And it's interesting how the performance changes compared to the 3080 going from faster to slower as the resolution goes up.

Mummelmann said:

Guys; quick question as I'm sifting through the jungle of motherboards and compatibility issues. How long will the LGA 1700 remain relevant/viable for upgrade? I understand it's quite new, but I've heard that it might be short-lived, causing potential issues 4-5 years down the line if I wish to upgrade my CPU. I mostly want PCIe 5.0 support and DDR5, but that's not hard to find. I think perhaps AMD is a safer bet, with them usually keeping their sockets for longer (AM5 will more than likely be viable in 5 years time).

As I've mentioned before, I have no loyalty. I'm considering either a 13600K or perhaps the 7800X3D, the latter seems like crazy value in comparison, especially given its low consumption. 4090 combo with 7800X3D is looking mighty sweet.

As Yuri said, 1700 may get a refresh based on the current architecture, but we don't know how those may look like. Too many rumors about it.

And yeah, AMD said it would support AM5 until 2025, probably a couple of new CPU releases, but you should still be able to find a compatible processor in 5 years. Maybe not the latest or the best, but still a good upgrade (and also cheaper as it won't be new anymore).