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hinch said:

haxxiy said:

If I had to make a wild guess Nvidia will stay cutting edge with 3nm and AMD as well (kinda have to, to stay competitive). Though going 3nm means even more expensive GPU's unless both camps want to take a smaler cut from sales.

I'm going to be a bit more optimistic and say that the 8900XT(X) will beat the 4090 by at least 10-15%. At least in raster with similar RT performance and be priced $1k again. With the 8800 XT just below 4090 at $750. The reason I say this is because AMD cards don't sell in the upper mid tier (like the 7900XT) without being significantly cheaper than Nvidia equivelants. Not even going to guess RTX 5000 cost since that'll be even more depressing lol. But hey at least performance gains should be crazy good with the 5090.

Another spanner in the works is Intel and Battlemage Q1/Q2 next year. Assuming it hits 4080 performance at $600-700. That would be decent card next year and maybe even a okay higher end card even by the time RTX 5000 and RX 8000 series are out.

Yeah, I meant the cut-down version of the next generation Radeon card. That would be a 40% performance improvement over the 7900XT in two years and I don't think that's too much of an ask considering Navi 31 is not a huge die and the 7900XT has memory bottlenecks to be addressed.

As for the nodes, Hopper and Zen 5 are not using a dense library, so their successors will probably go for the shrink, but I'm not sure about the consumer cards. We know Intel for one will remain in 5/4 nm. Maybe Samsung will have the capacity to take GPU orders but their 3 nm node isn't that good (and after 3 years since 5 nm, neither are, to be honest).