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Chrkeller said:
SvennoJ said:

That's why I love Mike Rowe and his Dirty Jobs series. Highlighting the work that keeps the lights on. And the ongoing theme is, can't find any people willing to do the hard work anymore and thus our infrastructure is literally falling apart all around us. Bridges, sewers, power lines, water mains, railroad tracks, it's all in dire need of upgrades and maintenance. All these jobs pay good money, but it's hard work and people rather sip there latte while browsing the internet in their comfy office or nowadays from home.

This.  People want easy jobs that require no skills....  that also pays well...  I mean sure, who doesn't want an unicorn that craps gold?  

Does our economic system need readjustments?  Sure.  But people also need to make better choices.  Stop picking jobs that have no demand and stop buying luxury items that aren't required.  There is a use behaviour issue built into this issue.  

Certainly there are exceptions, but people who get paid well (largely) aren't doing jobs they love.  We do it for the money.  And if somebody doesn't want to make the same sacrifice, that is fine, but stop whining that I have more.  I was given more, I've simply earned more.

Chrkeller said:
SvennoJ said:

These jobs pay well now because nobody wants to do them and we stopped teaching the skills required for them. And if you watch the show, it's mostly family owned small businesses that take advantage of this gap in the market. Doing the stuff they love to do.

People who do it for the money, or rather just to survive, are mostly stuck in crappy jobs, unable to do anything to improve their situation.

But true, it's also a behavior issues, carefully groomed by capitalism and consumerism, spurred on by over a century of marketing. In 2021 the US spend nearly 300 billion on marketing, that's more than the yearly federal budget on education. Stop wasting all that money on advertising useless luxury items :/

Absolutely behaviour is an issue.  I make a good bit more than the average person in the US.  I drive a 20k car, well below average.  I buy my clothes at Costco.  I go out to eat maybe twice a month.  I have had the same smart phone for 6 years, and my second smart phone ever.  And we have one TV in the house...  so we people complain they can't build wealth, I can't help but look at all the items they have that are completely unnecessary to be happy.  Perhaps we should drop a social classes in high school and teach finance because people don't get it, at least not here in the states.      

Work smart, not hard. Safety first. That's what they say today and it means everything today.

Well sometimes things need or have to be done the hard way, and sometimes that's not the safest way to do it, but it doesn't change that it needs to be done and someone has do it. Most of the time it's still plenty safe, but because the bar has been raised so high, workers think it unfathomable to try, or worse, they'll do it, but management wont allow it because they don't understand the job at all and simply have useless concerns, mostly over their own career. The costs and losses associated with this kinda stuff can be a lot, which leads to everything becoming just that much more expensive.

Do what you love, is another one. That's fine, no problem, you enjoy your job, great, but odds are good that job don't pay all that well. Few do in these cases. If you want to make more, or a ton, you're probably going to have to do a job you don't really enjoy much or even hate. Part of why rich people seem like jerks and are a bit edgy is because they're not super happy because they don't like their job, and they usually spend a lot of time at their job. The reason they do it is because it makes them lots of money, and the smartest ones save that money and then get the heck out as soon as they can and use that money to their advantage one way or another for the rest of their working life, typically taking on another more enjoyable career.

Priorities are another major problem for people. Spending over saving is a big problem. Plenty of people could live slightly worse, or much worse, and it wouldn't be that bad, but they'd rather not wait and just spend the money asap and live a bit better, until something unforeseen happens and then they wonder why they're in such a jam. Most rich people worked hard, for a time, saved their money and lived very basic lives, and then used that money to make even more money, instead of just sticking it in the bank. Eventually they got to a point where they were wealthy enough that they could spend a bunch without worrying about anything unforeseen. Even then they wait and keep plenty saved just in case, before they decide to spend a bunch more.

It doesn't help that many western education systems are broken and people haven't been taught properly for a long time now. If you're taught wrong to begin with, or aren't taught certain things at all, it makes it pretty difficult to understand, especially as you get older, as it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. They say it's much easier to fool someone, than it is to convince someone that they've been fooled, and there's a lot of truth to that. In a case like this, you pretty much have to rely on your parents to fill in the blanks due to poor so called high end education, but if they were schooled poorly as well, then it's no wonder why so many don't understand and why we have these problems today.

Last edited by ConservagameR - on 28 March 2023