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Machiavellian said:
Ryuu96 said:

Yup Yup...Forgot about Mistwalker which backs my point up a little more.

That is exactly my point though, it's rare and it's unique but it isn't impossible, Lighthouse could very well set themselves up like The Initiative and The Initiative's Perfect Dark is AAA. I don't think this is what Lighthouse Games is doing but I'm just saying, just because they're only 30 employees right now, doesn't mean they aren't AAA...When they say they're AAA, they just mean the game they're working on is AAA.

They've only just set themselves up, they could very well grow to over 100. We've no idea how much they plan on outsourcing either. But desires right now are to be AAA. I don't see why they should be doubted when investors are throwing dozens of millions lately, the Co-Founder of Playground is going to receive a lot of investment on top of the millions that Microsoft gave him for Playground Games, Lol.

I don't really think we are in a position to say to a studio claiming to be AAA "no, you're wrong" when we have no idea at all about their plans, investment, financials, etc.

I know that isn't what you're doing though.

I believe they should be doubt until they actually release a product.  I have seem in my years many senior devs form their own studios to only fail at getting a product to market or the product is sub par.  I do not wish any ill will on any of these new studios, I just know going on your own isn't as easy as a lot of people may believe.  Having aspirations of building a AAA product and actually getting it to market is something totally different.  I have been with and have many friends who have gone to startups and its tough making it.  Some people are way better at being an employee then being a boss or just running a small team then a whole studio.

I accept this but.

  • A product being sub-par doesn't mean it wasn't AAA.
  • A product being cancelled doesn't mean it wasn't AAA.

Plenty of shit AAA's and cancelled AAA's.

I'd accept the argument that all these developers opening straight to AAA are taking a risk but I won't call them liars for claiming their title is AAA, Lol.