It's ok to be angry about Capitalism

[the-pi-guy]

Chrkeller said:

the-pi-guy said:

One of the things that just continues to be baffling to me is how many people in the middle and even lower classes, think they're "winning at this game". So many of the people that look down on the complainers are not living any better lives than the complainers. 

This isn't Chrkeller vs the cashiers at McDonalds who "made a bad choice and aren't living a great life;" so Chrkeller should pay more in taxes to make up for their bad decisions. That has nothing to do with any anti-capitalist positions. That is in fact a bandaid for Capitalism. McDonalds doesn't pay their employees enough, because the owners of McDonald's are incentivized to pay their employees as little as possible. Because that's what Capitalism is.

When people are fighting Capitalism, they are fighting against that idea. Even the centrists liberals are fighting for "McDonald's should pay their employees more so that everyone else shouldn't have to." 

One of the main points of left wing politics, isn't "people with money should pay for the people without money", but instead "rich people should stop taking advantage of poorer people".

While we are here, this feels like an incredibly important link to bring up. Survivorship bias

I'm not middle class.  Income percentile I'm around 95%.  

What people who complain about Capitalism don't understand is they control the market.  Don't like what McDonalds and Wal-Mart pays their employees?  Stop shopping there.  Capitalism simply provides consumers with what they want, in the US that is cheap junk which results in low wages.  Many don't like MS buying out large companies, stop buying Xbox.

The sooner people realize they control the market and the market is a reflection of their buying habits....  I know it is a hard pill to swallow and the truth hurts..  but facts are facts.

"One of the main points of left wing politics, isn't "people with money should pay for the people without money""

Lol, yeah that is complete and utter horseshit in the US.  The left are constantly trying to raise taxes on high income earners.  

Obviously we aren't going to agree.  I've said my peace.  

>What people who complain about Capitalism don't understand is they control the market. Don't like what McDonalds and Wal-Mart pays their employees?  

Except it's not that simple. 

It requires that enough people care, it requires that enough people can afford to.

If a lot of people decided to not get groceries from Walmart, they would have to get groceries somewhere else. Chances are pretty good that their only other options are another store that treats their employees even worse. 

That's the issue. Just because you have choices, doesn't mean any of them are good. 

>Lol, yeah that is complete and utter horseshit in the US. The left are constantly trying to raise taxes on high income earners.

I did not say they weren't trying to raises taxes. I was explaining the motivation.