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LudicrousSpeed said:

Imagine calling an Arkane game “GamePass filler”. Glad to say I can’t relate to that level of disconnect.

And Horizon is not the same thing as Motorsport, not even close. That’s like saying Gran Turismo is the same as Hot Wheels Racing. It’s also not a “remake”, it’s a sequel that has had years of extra time in the oven. It’s not “more of the same”. 

On topic, of course the peak years are ahead. The software onslaught has not even really begun.

Horizon is indeed not the same thing and has eclipsed Forza in popularity by a lot.

As for this 'controversy', sorry I bought the console early for Forza and Starfield. (Nah not sorry, I hadn't played Forza 7 and Gears 5 yet). But games that move consoles later on are mostly those that appeal to the widest audience. Hence I wonder how much Hogwarts Legacy has improved sales for all consoles, then we can compare.

Forza 8 is more a hardcore racing title, doesn't have the broad appeal. Starfield is a new IP and hopefully hits it out of the park. Yet with any new IP it's a gamble. And releasing it in summer when attention is low, not the best place for new IPs. But if Starfield is really good, it will still move consoles by BF.

Anyway Horizon plus Halo Infinite seem to be much bigger system sellers than Forza and Starfield to me. But I didn't know Series X was still constrained during the holidays as I saw it readily in stock where I live, unlike the ps5. But it must have sold all that was available as Series X was out of stock end Januari and is still not available again (so did Hogwarts Legacy move them or what?) PS5 only has the GoW bundle available atm (standalone sold out, digital edition sold out). And in a surprise twist, Series S is now also sold out (haven't seen that happen in over a year)

So are there new supply issues or did Hogwarts Legacy sell a lot of consoles? Anyway can't have peaked yet if it's still sold out, unless it's a new supply chain issue. I just don't think Starfield will that big of a system seller, I have seen little hype for it so far outside of fan circles.