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Kyuu on 19 February 2023
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pikashoe said:
Kyuu said:

Svennoj also owns all three consoles + PC so I guess he's not interested in childish console war crap either, and yet you want me to call him out because he's the only person here who mentioned that a segment of Starfield/Bethesda fans already bought a Series XS. I didn't notice him saying "most", just that its system selling factor may be overestimated. He didn't outright say it won't be a system seller:

"But perhaps Starfield will create enough buzz to move consoles in summer."

Whats the point in bringing it up in the first place? Yeah I'm sure some people may have already bought the console for starfield, but as usual a vast majority will buy it when the game comes out, the same as every other big console exclusive. This whataboutism could be said about any other console as well. 

This thread just reminds me of when some people would say the switch would fall off a cliff, because people had already bought it for zelda and mario, or other silly reasons.

"if you were looking for Starfield, no reason not to buy one sooner rather than later"

" I doubt if Starfield will move a whole lot on its own"

He's entitled to his opinion which doesn't justify anyone's mockery. This is nothing like the ridiculous Switch cliff theories (which I actively made fun of). There's a plethora of good reasons that Xbox may peak early, this doesn't mean it would "fall off a cliff", because it can maintain decent sales/legs for many years to come without necessarily matching its early peak.

Series XS was significantly overtracked, had a terrible Q4, started this year with a serious decline for the first 5 or 6 weeks, and MS expects hardware revenue to drop YoY at least for the first quarter. Did that ever occur with the Switch? Does Switch directly compete with Playstation? No. Did Switch get insane deals and pricedrops AND fail at selling well enough in its strongest market? No. Does Nintendo put their (VASTLY more popular) games on PC day 1? No. Did Series XS unify two different mega popular lineups into one platform? No. Is it portable? No. You're drawing some strange parallels.

I expect Series XS to peak either this year of in 2024 (Though I'm still not sure if MS will have a traditional generation), but guessing it already peaked is by no means a preposterous prediction.

I will agree that the "No reason not to buy one sooner rather than later" part is silly and maybe poorly worded, but I'd rather focus on the overall meaning.


"I doubt if Starfield will move a whole lot on its own." is a fair take. You're gonna have to ask him what he considers "a whole lot" because that is subjective, and Starfield may not be all that huge (it's a new IP after all, and Bethesda is inconsistent) and 80% of its sales could come from the PC crowd. He closed his comment saying he may be wrong and it would create enough buzz.

This thread might be glorious to return to in 11 months lol. I think Series XS will beat last year because it should be easy to outperform their last Q4 and make up for the slow start of this year, even if Microsoft's titles don't quite live up to the hype (which most of them will anyway).

Last edited by Kyuu - on 19 February 2023