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SvennoJ said:
Machiavellian said:

Getting sued and taking to court is one thing.  Winning is another.  Anyone in the US can be taken to court that does not mean guilt.  Being a monopoly is not a crime or is it sleazy tactic as you continue to suggest.  Sleazy tactic would be MS actively preventing software from running on Windows or actively making competition software that run on windows run worse while their software always outperforms.  This is the point I would be looking from you to actually make, not that bundling internet explorer into Windows somehow is a sleazy tactic because one judge thought so.  

Bundling Explorer into Windows I would not consider a controlling move unless MS also made it so that no other browser could be run on the system.  While being the browser for windows, Safari is the default browser for Mac OS. Its expected by user to have a default browser for the OS more than it being a controlling move.  All OS have a default browser, so I still do not see your point.  Also Apple bundle pretty good software within the OS just like MS bundle basic software within Windows. Linux distros also bundling a lot of default software. No one would think paint is preventing someone from using Photoshop but the ideal of having basis features to an OS would not be or is considered a controlling move.  

About preventing stuff from working, I still haven't found a reason why you can't use a DS4 with Forza Horizon (can't even have one charging or the game is uncontrollable) while it works perfectly fine with Elite Dangerous. Doesn't work with Ori, works with most other non MS games.

Anyway about browsers
https://www.theverge.com/22630319/microsoft-windows-11-default-browser-changes

Microsoft’s upcoming release of Windows 11 will make it even harder to switch default browsers and ignores browser defaults in new areas of the operating system. While Microsoft is making many positive changes to the Windows 11 UI, the default apps experience is a step back and browser competitors like Mozilla, Opera, and Vivaldi are concerned.

In Windows 11, Microsoft has changed the way you set default apps. Like Windows 10, there’s a prompt that appears when you install a new browser and open a web link for the first time. It’s the only opportunity to easily switch browsers, though. Unless you tick “always use this app,” the default will never be changed. It’s incredibly easy to forget to toggle the “always use this app” option, and simply launch the browser you want from this prompt and never see this default choice again when you click web links

I'm still on Windows 10, my kid has a Win 11 laptop and I don't like it. Win 10 was supposed to be the last Windows, but they had to change up the UI again. Not that Win 10 UI is great. And the steps I had to go through to uninstall Edge and make sure it doesn't come back were eye opening. Of course some stuff doesn't work anymore without Edge browser. Anyway I'm sticking with FireFox and not in a hurry to get a new gaming laptop since that means learning a new OS yet again. I just got comfortable with Win 10 :/

You should bring that up with Sony for not supporting Pc with the Ds 4 and offering official Driver support. No need to blame MS for 3rd party drivers not working right.

Also that other link is not the greatest answer or how it is. I forgot to set Firefox as my default browser on a new install of windows 11 when i did start firefox again im 99% sure it asked me again, even if it didnt it is a simple a matter of going into the default apps in settings and changing it. If this makes it harder for people honestly i dont know what to say. Pretty much afaik its only when you click no it doesnt ask you again but you can still set it in the settings like i said. And if i clicked no to a browser being my default it would be pretty annoying having that pop up every time i open a different browser for whatever reason. So to me this is picking at straws..

Last edited by zero129 - on 23 January 2023