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SvennoJ on 20 January 2023
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zero129 said:
SvennoJ said:

$499 in 2006 is worth $724 nowadays, so still a ways to go to reach PS3 launch price... If you want to look at disgusting price practices, look at NVidea :/

And erm it was Nintendo that screwed up...
https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/how-nintendos-massive-mistake-led-to-the-creation-of-the-sony-playstation-25-years-ago

“According to the contract, Sony could make and sell CD-ROM games without buying them from Nintendo. Nintendo wanted a monopoly on manufacturing games for its hardware.â€Â

Rather than bring this disagreement to Sony directly — rather than attempt to work out a new arrangement that was more favourable on the terms Nintendo demanded — Nintendo elected to abandon their deal and strike a better one with a competing manufacturer, leaving Sony in the lurch. (Some have suggested that this may be chalked up to cultural differences and Japanese contract law that no one at Nintendo felt obligated to inform Sony of their decision to renege.) Nintendo felt it was better served focusing its efforts on a CD-ROM peripheral that could be manufactured by Philips without compromising their monopoly on first-party software. Nintendo was already trouncing its only major competitor, the Sega Genesis. No one seemed capable of threatening their dominion — and so, making decisions cavalierly, they felt they had nothing to fear.

So it was Nintendo believing they had the market cornered and doing whatever they wanted. It's also Nintendo that never lowers the price of their first party software... And also Nintendo that's the only one not bringing their games to PC. Nintendo have never left their old ways :/

So like i said. Sony wanted to get the royaltys from Nintendo first party games that would of been using the CD and Nintendo was like f*** that im out who does Sony think they are?, and went their own way and thats how the PS came to be. Not much different then with MS entering the console market.

Nintendo and Sony had agreed on their terms and signed a contract. Nintendo broke the contract.

Nintendo had pursued Sony, aggressively, to work with them to develop a new console that could use compact discs instead of the cartridges familiar from its Super Nintendo Entertainment System; they had consented to the deal, if somewhat reluctantly, and had been working on the hardware under the terms of a contract agreed to by both parties. Sony’s executives turned up to the Consumer Electronics Show expecting to listen to Nintendo’s promised presentation of the partnership. When Sony’s then-president Olaf Olaffson heard Yamauchi announce on stage that Nintendo would be working with Philips, it was the first he had heard of it. “We view this as a very serious matter,” was all he could tell stunned journalists after the announcement. He said it was “not clear” whether Nintendo had breached their contract.

But sure, keep blaming Sony for Nintendo shooting themselves in the foot.

“According to the contract, Sony could make and sell CD-ROM games without buying them from Nintendo. Nintendo wanted a monopoly on manufacturing games for its hardware.”

How do you come to the conclusion that Sony wanted royalties from Nintendo first party games???




Did MS have a deal with Sony to work together before making the original Xbox? Very different situation.

Actually they did work together earlier on the MSX but that never caught on in the US https://tedium.co/2019/01/29/microsoft-msx-history/ Sad as console history would have been very different with an open platform where manufacturers can compete on the hardware as well as the software. MSX was made by National, Sony, Pioneer, Panasonic, Samsung, Sharp, Philips, Canon, Yamaha, Toshiba, Mitsubishi, Sanyo, JVC, Fujitsu, Spectravideo, GoldStar, Hitachi, Kyocera, Yashica, Daewoo, Dragon MSX, Casio and developed by ASCII Corporation, Microsoft.


From Google

"Concerned about Sony's successful PlayStation console damaging the personal computer market, Microsoft initiated plans in 1999 to create its own console gaming system to both diversify its product line and capitalize on the thriving gaming industry."

Pretty different from

"Sony began developing the PlayStation after a failed venture with Nintendo to create a CD-ROM peripheral for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System in the early 1990s."


MS is now eyeing the thriving mobile games industry and inroads onto your smart TV with game streaming. Google and Apple are MS' competitors.