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SecondWar said:
crissindahouse said:

I hope chancellor Scholz realizes that Ukrainian soldiers need training as well before they can use the Western tanks and that Russia is already on a little upswing in some areas so that even yesterday was a little too late to agree to tank deliveries. We complained about Switzerland not allowing us to send Swiss-made ammunition for Gepards to Ukraine but then he does this shit with the Leopards...

Wasn’t it reported that the vast majority of Germany’s Leopard tanks are essentially derelict and it would take about a year to get sufficient number into a condition suitable to be deployed in combat?

Even so, it does make me question why Germany kelt them in that condition. If there was a scenario where they required at short notice to fend off an invasion of German territory they would be as good as useless. And if the excuse if they were held back until such a time that ‘we had advance warning then we could get them into fighting order’, well shouldn’t that time be now?

Issue is countries need Germany's approval to send theirs, I don't know about the state of Germany's but since a number of countries have said they're willing to send theirs, it may not matter too much how many Germany specifically is able to provide.

Plus this is from Rheinmetall alone.

Ukraine has only been asking for around 300 tanks, I'm assuming it was more an excuse to not send the tanks.

Jordan has recently retired its fleet of around 400 British Challenger 1 tanks, I wish UK just purchased them back off Jordan and send them to Ukraine if they are still in good condition. But I don't know how ideal it is to send so many different kinds of tanks, different logistics and maintenance.