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Bofferbrauer2 said:

Captain_Yuri said:

Meh, a 7900XTX class GPU shouldn't be competing against a bebranded 70 class (4080) nor should aggressive UV+OC+500 watts should be needed to unlock its full potential only to still end up being slower than a stock 4090, sometimes massively slower. The only reason 7900XTX is considered to be good is cause the 4080 is such a turd but imo they are both in the same boat when you consider that getting a non reference cooler means the 7900XTX becomes similarly priced to a 4080. 7900XTX just feels less worse off to buy since it is a bit faster. And that's if you ignore all the other issues surrounding it such as bad drivers, high power consumption, VR incompatibility and too many other things to list. Eventually those should be fixed but until they actually do get fixed, it's hard to recommend it to someone spending $1000+ on a GPU just to deal with all these issues.

Like if a person is gonna spend around $1200 for a AIB 7900XTX or 4080... May as well spend a bit more and get a 4090 which doesn't have any of those issues and is very power efficient along with massive RT advantages + Ai advantages + leadership in Raster. As the green goblin says "It Just Works."

I just checked prices in Europe. The most expensive 7900XTX costs 1400€, the most expensive 4080 a bit over 1500€. Meanwhile the cheapest 4090 sits at 2050€, or about 800€ above the cheapest AIB models of the 7900XTX and 700€ over those of the 4080. That's way more than just a bit and a price premium that is actually making it a worse value per frame than the other two cards right now.

Well you can't really look into random retailers with random card prices and assume it's like that everywhere because different regions, different countries, different exchange rates, different retailers etc will mean variance. Hell prices can vary from retailer to retailer in the same city. For example, I can also skew results as well:

7900XTX Reference: 1500€ https://www.otto.de/p/sapphire-rx-7900xtx-mba-edition-24gb-grafikkarte-24-gb-S005U0NJ/#variationId=S005U0NJYIO8

4090 Zotac: 1900€ https://www.pccomponentes.com/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-4090-trinity-oc-24gb-gddr6x?utm_term=productdatafeed&utm_content=34193408279&utm_source=486491&utm_medium=afi&utm_campaign=www.gputracker.eu&awc=20982_1672874230_a063cc1578d42292bf34be4521e7444c

The only real means of comparison are MSRPs set by the GPU manufacturer because thats the only thing that's consistent for a discussion.

PS: I don't speak those languages just in case there's a mistake but the point is that going outside of MSRPs is pointless for a discussion