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JEMC said:

Captain_Yuri said:

NVIDIA Settles On $799 MSRP For The GeForce NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-settles-on-799-msrp-for-the-geforce-nvidia-rtx-4070-ti/

Better than it's original $900 but still too expensive imo but that will effectively be the theme of this gen from both Nvidia and Radeon. It should at least be better priced than a 4080 since that costs around 50% more for like 20-25% performance gain. 7900XT could be with in 5-10% faster depending on the games with a good vram advantage but with slower RT, no Ai upscaling, worse power efficiency and worse drivers till AMD gets them fixed.

I'm torn with that rumored, still not confirmed, price point. On one hand, it's less than the original 4080 12GB price, which is good news, but on the other side we have Nvidia asking $800 for a xx70Ti card, and that's insane.

And the worst part is that this price makes the rumor of the 4060Ti being $500 more likely to be truth, because there's "only" a $300 gap between both, enough to fit the regular 4070.

Captain_Yuri said:

Desktop GPU Sales Hit 20-Year Low

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/sales-of-desktop-graphics-cards-hit-20-year-low

Considering the recession and how gaming PCs don't exactly feel affordable, makes sense.

Given the above, I expect 2023 to be even worse.

I don't think value will be the theme of this generation even after all the Ampere cards sell out. Likely Blackwell will bring back value pricing assuming the mining stays dead. But with low PC sales and such, I do think most cards outside of the 4090 will get discounted unlike last generation. But a 6800XT can still be had for $500 so least RDNA 2 is excellent value compared to Nvidia/RDNA 3 pricing.