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zero129 on 17 December 2022
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Kyuu said:
zero129 said:

Did you just skip the rest of what i posted?. And why dont you tell me how they sold bad?.

Here ill help you

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 I used Nintendo and Sony to show you that having a large catalogue of must-haves will enable them to do things that they can't do now, including but not limited to Sony and Nintendo like practices that are frowned upon or objectively fucked up. I'm partly against the deal because it's too huge and too unnecessary and I believe I explained why in sufficient detail.

But your ok with Sony doing it?."

"Sony and Nintendo didn't monopolize through force"

Yes Sony did. And Sony would be more then happy if they could wipe out Nintendo and MS."

There you you go...

I asked you a simple question.

If GamePass is the reason for the two biggest original MS games falling off US and UK charts in like 2 months after release, this ain't gonna propel Sony to copy their model. Also, GamePass is hardly a factor on PC sales where FH5 is doing "alright".

I didn't say they sold "bad" I said they underperformed. I'm guessing each maybe sold 3-4 million copies so far, with FH5 closer to 4 million.

Why the fuck do you keep accusing me of accepting Sony's bad practices? Two wrongs don't make a right, and what Microsoft is doing here is on a whole different scale.

It doesn't matter what Sony "wants". The fact of the matter is they've haven't done anything close to as anti-competition as Microsoft buying Zenimax, let alone ABK (when/if their content do go exclusive). Sony's paid exclusives are limited to a few games, most of which Japanese games that are practically irrelevant on Xbox, so the impact is minimal. The rest of their exclusives are primarily unpaid, shovelware, and PSVR stuff.

How much do you reckon GamePass hurts traditional sales across PC and Xbox? 30%? 50%? What do you make of Phil stating GamePass leads to more sales?

I asked you in return where is your prove they sold less then expected or bad or underperformed. You are the one who made the statement so its up to you to prove your point.

Its for the same reason you keep accusing others of accepting bad practices. I have never seen you complain when Sony does something bad. And this deal isnt bad for me or a bunch of other people. Its also not bad for Sony gamers as CoD is still going to be on their system. Something Sony would not allow. So i dont see how its on another scale other then cost. Im sure the is many xbox fans that would like to play the new Spider man, the new wolverine game, Kotor remake, Silent hill 2 etc etc. Scale is in the eye of the beholder not the cost as just since something cost more does not make it worse.

I dont think gamepass hurts sales at all. It allows people to try and play games they never would. I think of it just like how video stores used to do rentals of games in the 90's and that sure didnt hurt game sales.