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Hiku on 13 December 2022
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SecondWar said:
mZuzek said:

So after a lifetime of Van Gaal being xenophobic against south american players, including some nasty episodes with Riquelme and Di Maria when he managed them, after he said Messi is like one player less when defending, after he said penalties was advantage Netherlands because they had a better keeper, after Weghorst came in to provoke the Argentina players and foul them nonstop, after the Dutch players continuously broke the rules in the penalty shootout by leaving the halfway line to block the path of the Argentine penalty takers and give them very nice words on the way... You expected the Argentine to give them a handshake and a hug?

Give them a handshake and a hug? No

Not to behave in a crash, childish way? Yes.

Then you either reward the Dutch players disgusting behaviour by letting them get away with it.
Or you don't, but only blame Argentina, as you did in your previous post. (Which is probably because you didn't know the context.)

The difference is that the Netherland players were in their faces tauninting and heckiling DURING the penalty shootout.
Several dutch players swarming the person walking up to take the penalty. I have never seen this before.
And they didn't just target the one walking up to the spot. Otamendi said: "I celebrated in the face because there was a player from the Netherlands who, in every penalty we had, came and said things to one of our players."

If you ask me, the Argentine players were not close enough to their face when they taunted back after the final whistle was blown.
Fuck that about having to act classy when your oppionents act like this, and reward them for that behaviour.

SecondWar said:

Bit in italics I haven't seen referenced but if true I can understand there being bad blood.

The bit in bold, there's always trash talk before/during games. I guarantee you many involved in the Argentine squad will have said similar.

That's more of a separate issue, and less about why the Argentine players taunted the Dutch players after the game, and more related to why Messi did Riquelme's goal gesture aimed at Van Gaal, and also told him "You talk too much".

Last edited by Hiku - on 13 December 2022