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haxxiy said:

Captain_Yuri said:

Well a 13600k is competitive in gaming and is faster in multicore than a 7700X. Even during the recent sales, the price of the 7700X I saw go for as low as $348 while the retail price of the 13600k without any discounts is $330. If you add in Vcache to 7700X, it will be faster in gaming but also more expensive while still being behind in multicore. If you add in more CCDs and more Vcache to fix both, then the CPU will be a lot more expensive to the point of being in a different price class. So for Intel, the hybrid looks to be more effective than CCDs when it comes to price to performance.

AFAIK, that's a 257 mm2 monolithic chip vs. a 72 mm2 CCD + 125 mm2 I/O. The die yield would be >70% greater for the single CCD chips and >30% greater for double CCDs if they have comparable defect rates. So the Raptor Lake chip used in the 13600 and above is more comparable with the double CCD Zen 4 chips in terms of manufacturing costs, even assuming a 50% premium on the 5 nm node.

Someone was/is either overpricing or playing very aggressively here...

Unless the small cores are very cheap to produce because of the fact that they don't need to clock high or have hyper threading and etc where as AMD needs to make sure all of their performance cores needs to meet the higher clock specifications as well as have hyper threading and etc.