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Machiavellian said:
Ryuu96 said:

This. Apple pulled their ads like dozens of other companies (50 of the top 100 advertisers) and Musk went on a tantrum and started bitching about something else entirely (the 30% cut). Epic was kicked off the app store for trying to create a side store to circumvent Apple's store cut, Epic sued, lost and solidified App Stores right to charge 30%.

Musk will lose because he's a fucking idiot and courts will just refer to the decision in the Epic vs Apple court case.

Basically, Apple has the right to charge 30% on their own store (what Musk is whining about) but do they have the right to block all sideload stores (what Epic wants) and what the EC will likely eventually investigate and what Microsoft wants too. Nobody is mad at Apple's right to charge 30% on their own store but they want the option of allowing a sideload store which circumvents the 30%.

That is a double edge sword for any business that has a closed system.  That would pretty much open up all consoles to side store fronts and probably allow things like GP on Sony systems and PS+ on MS.  Hmm, I wonder who would benefit the most from such a ruling.

Microsoft have actually argued that consoles and mobiles are different, thus if mobile is broken open, it should not apply to consoles, I forgot what exactly their arguments were, but I think one of them was that consoles are sold at a loss, so they rely on their storefront whilst Apple phones are sold at profits, so they don't need the storefront cut as much.

So basically, Microsoft is afraid that if consoles were broken open, publishers like EA, Ubisoft, Take Two, etc, would just create their own storefronts on Xbox consoles and Microsoft would get nothing aside from purchases on their own IP which then makes selling consoles at a loss not a viable business decision.

Microsoft basically wants mobiles to be treated like PCs, but they still demand that a cut remains in place for consoles. I think they're all in favour of Game Pass on PS and PS+ on Xbox but they'd still demand some sort of cut, whilst the iOS/Android argument is sideloading a store and not having to pay any cut.

Microsoft would definitely benefit the most though with Game Pass + ABK. Just don't think it's something they want (yet).

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 29 November 2022