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the-pi-guy said:
zero129 said:

1. I honestly feel insulted by this post. Care to explain how millions of people and kids dying from starvation and having to leave their homes etc isnt the same why?.

2. Explain how did me or my kids or anyone else in "Ireland" benefit from slavery or stuff that happened years ago?. Clearly it "Is" from stuff that happened years ago as its clear that stuff isnt going on today and if it is its not a world wide thing and doesnt only include "White" people. I am sorry if i dont feel like saying sorry for something i had no part in. Just like i dont expect everyone who was racist towards my community of people in the traveling/gypsy community to apologize for stuff they didnt do to us.

Go after the places this stuff still exist but dont paint a whole group of people with the same brush as thats just silly.

3.) As mods you should know how it is to generalize a whole group of people based on a few bad eggs.

1.) I'm hoping that you can inform me on your conflating slavery with famine.

Some of my family members came over here because of the Potato famine, but I'm not as familiar with it, as I am with American slavery. And I doubt that you are as familiar with American slavery as you are with the potato famines.

2.) Can I give an example here. I benefit from infrastructure here in the US, most of which is older than I am. The university I went to was 150 years old. That is far older than me, or my parents, or my grandparents, or my great grandparents, and probably my great great parents. I still benefit from decades of infrastructure. I benefited from roads that were built over decades, I benefited from hills that were flattened, the trees that were cut down to be able to put those roads down. I benefited from the materials that were imported, and perhaps even using slave labor for the university and the roads over decades or maybe longer. My primary education was funded by property taxes, which is based off values of houses and properties many of which are hundreds of years old.

I get it, it's abstract, it's distant, it's way before any of us were alive. But we benefit from things, indirectly too. Sometimes even second hand or third hand or 100th hand.

3.)  It's not generalizing a whole group based on a few bad eggs. It is me recognizing that I don't live in a vacuum. As a white male, I get a lot of benefits, and surely some downsides.

1. I am hoping how you can inform me how one bad thing (Black slavery) Makes another less bad (The irish famine) as they where both caused by people in power not the general populous. But that in no way makes one less bad than the other and once again i am insulted by your narrow view point on this subject. If all them Irish was black would it fit what your saying then? As if the colour of skin means anything when bad things happen?.

2. That point means nothing to me as the irish here build our own things. It also means nothing if i lived in america as i should not feel guilty for something that happened years ago. Otherwise how long is this guilt trip going to go on?. and also Africans was not the only slaves in history. If you follow history you would know Africans had slaves themself well before the USA. They had European slaves from the coasts in the pirate raids. Slavery is nothing new it was part of history and imo thats where it should be left as looking back will bring no one forward only make more divide.

3. Thats good for you. If you can let me know when my benefits a due ill be happy but for now i see none. Once again this is painting everyone with the same brush. If you feel guilty for being white thats on you but me i dont as i know we didnt do anything or dont benefit in anyway.