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EpicRandy said:
ConservagameR said:

People like DeSantis because he is very logical and calculated, which is a big reason why he's been so effective in Florida. If DeSantis truly is the guy the people think he is, he won't run against Trump as long as Trumps base doesn't falter which is pretty unlikely.

Unless Trumps base dwindles to a clear minority prior to the primaries, going up against Trump would be a terrible decision and very unlike DeSantis. The downsides could be as impactful as the upside, so it would be far too risky to attempt. Losing to Trump, or beating him and splitting the party only to lose to Biden or Newsom, would be the end of DeSantis having any chance at furthering his political career.

All DeSantis would have to do is wait 4 years and the path would be clear for him to automatically become the Republican Presidential candidate. It's not worth the risk in 2024 if Trump remains strong.

Trump as already proven to be insufficient twice in a row, you may argue otherwise and blaming x or y but right leaning media is already turning up on him. Even the New York Post pretty much trashed is announcement deriding him as only a Florida man making an announcement fox news even cut his announcement speech down mid way through is announcement. 

If DeSantis is very logical and calculated like you said than he will run against Trump, he has all the reason to. GOP big donors support him not trump, Trump as proven himself inefficient with independent voters, Many GOP figure are looking for other candidate, DeSantis even beats Trumps in many polls for 2024.

Trump simply isn't a good candidate for 2024 and most of the republican party knows it except the few MAGA like MTG. But of course, it still is useful for him as a way to slowdown legal procedure against him or rake up donation money like he likes to do. Would he loose the primary to another candidate, like I said he will more than likely present himself as independent or a new party to keep investigation at bay and donation money flowing. He will destroy the GOP in the process but he as proven time and time again he doesn't care about anything other than himself.

Where did I say Trump is automatically going to win and where did I blame anyone?

Fox went easy on Trump prior because they cater to the right, but other than Hannity, who knows Trump, the others weren't exactly all in on Trump. They did prefer Trump, but simply because they couldn't stand Hillary and assumed Biden would do a poor job. They weren't really behind Trump back then before the primaries, until he won, then it slowly became clear he far more popular then believed.

Part of why Trump has announced so early, is to get any nonsense out of the way extra early, and build up as strong of a following as he can, so that by the time DeSantis would decide to run, he'd see Trump is strong enough to be a really tough race and would decline to run. Assuming Trump is strong enough at that point in time. If Trumps following is weak by then, DeSantis will run. At that point the only question would be whether or not Trump backs DeSantis or not, because if he doesn't, there's enough Trump loyalists that will refrain from voting and DeSantis will lose to Biden or Newsom.

Trump was a terrible candidate since 2016 apparently. That didn't stop him from becoming President in 2016 and then gaining 11 million more votes in 2020. The mainstream media and politicians don't pick the President, the people do. The GOP is well on its way to becoming MAGA and that's where it's going to end up with either Trump or DeSantis at the helm.