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Chrkeller said:
EpicRandy said:

I said rarely not never, an action normally have reason and motive, school shooting are often done by those who felt left out of society and try to do the most harm so they can to be noticed or heard. If it was completely devoid of motive than it should not have any more value to the person committing said action than anything else they could do at that moment.

A bad action to be completely devoid of motive would be done by those unable to even begin to process the effect of their own action. Like a 3-4 year old firing a found gun at his/her sibling. It is also without any premeditation.

To me this is a chicken versus the egg kind of thing.  Do people have motive and then commit crimes.  Or do bad people commit bad acts, apply some made up motive to justify their actions?  Heck if I know.  Bad people need to be removed from society.    

It isn't, crimes have motives however flawed it is. If an action is devoid of motive than it has no more value to the person committing it than any other action like raising your arm when your alone. Motive can be senseless though but their still is.

A person may use made up motive to justify their act but there still is true motives behind it.