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| TheMisterManGuy said: Get rid of mass Mail-in Ballots. They're slow, unreliable, and can be easily manipulated by either political party. Mail-ins should only be used in special cases like military or citizens traveling. Conservative or Liberal, nobody wants to wait days, let alone weeks to find out who won an election, regardless of who wins. The fact that several states kept their COVID-era election rules despite COVID being pretty much over is pathetic. Elections should be done in person, on one night, and the winner should be decided the same night. If other countries can do this, why can't the U.S.? |
Waiting has always been a thing.
Every state legally has it set so that they have something like 1 to 3 weeks to certify elections. Doesn't matter if it's Texas or California. They need that time to count millions of ballots (and perhaps count and recount ballots), they need that time to verify voter registration.
In short, the process to vote is a lot busier than just counting through a stack of papers.
How long it takes to certify an election in each state.
| TheMisterManGuy said: It's because it's being marketed as a replacement for in-person voting rather than a limited option for special exceptions. Plus, mass amounts of mail-in ballots have been known to be susceptible to... "tampering" by various political groups... And its not like its impossible to fix either. If both Florida and Georiga can count their votes in a matter of hours, what's Arizona or Nevada's excuse? |
None of these states did that.
The reason why some states were called sooner, is because the winner got a huge margin of the vote. It is a lot easier for an election to be called when (blank) has 70% of the vote, and there's no way for the other person to catch up.
On the other hand, when these vote counts are separated by only 100's of votes, you kind of need to count every vote before you have the actual result.
That's the difference between Florida,Georgia and Arizona/Nevada. It's not because they're faster at counting, it's because the elections are a lot closer in those states.
| TheMisterManGuy said: Well there have been well documented cases in more recent elections of dozens of ballots with the names of dead people on them somehow voting. |
Most of the time, when "dead people voted", it is not dead people voted. It's usually because someone happened to have the same name as a dead person.
John and Mary Smith decided to name their son after John. So they have John Smith Sr. and John Smith Jr. So John Smith Jr voted a couple weeks after John Smith Sr passed away. Or sometimes Mary Smith, decides to write her name as "Mrs. John Smith" because that's how they did it 50 years ago and she's not changing now.
Or very rarely, someone casts an absentee ballot, and then they die a day before the election time.
| TheMisterManGuy said: There's also been instances of tens of thousands of ballots somehow arriving all at once at 1 am when most people were asleep, as well as voting centers blocking the windows of the counting rooms for no explainable reason. |
I can't find anything about this. I'm going to make some assumptions here, especially since you haven't provided any evidence for your claim.
But I'm assuming what actually happened is that people put mail in their mailbox during the day. Some delivery person started delivering mail and picking up mail later in the day, got back to the distribution center at midnight or something, and then dropped them off at the vote counting place at 1am. Nothing particularly weird about that.
Also voting center blocking windows for no explainable reason?
Some of the ballot counters are dealing with personal information. That at the very least would include names, addresses and birthdates of people, because they have to verify voter registration. Some states may ask for more information besides that.
This is more of a personal thing, but having a huge crowd of people banging at a window is not a fun time to work. It's a distraction and would lead many people to doing worse work.
| TheMisterManGuy said: It's the way in which they're implemented here in the US that makes a lot of people lose trust in our voting process. |
Propaganda also makes it easy to make people lose trust in the system.
A lot of people are pretty talented at making normal boring events (like protecting confidential information) sound sinister.
| TheMisterManGuy said: And its not just mail-ins either. There was a recent incident in Arizona where 20% of the voting machines in Maricopa county somehow malfunctioned all at once. We are now on Day 6, and we still don't know who the next governor of that state will be. That's not just embarrassing, that's unacceptable. |
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