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Bofferbrauer2 said:

Captain_Yuri said:

I would agree if they caught up when the tech matured but they haven't.

Turing came out and AMD didn't have RT/Ai upscaling with RDNA 1 so people made the excuse that Turing was a beta test and those features were not needed. Alright fair enough. Then AMD came out with RDNA 2 which performed worse than a 2080 Ti in many RT tests while Ampere far exceeded RDNA 2 in RT. People made the excuse that it was AMD's first attempt. Now RDNA 3 comes out and not only is it slower than 4090 in Raster while 6900XT was competitive against 3090, but it once again has last gen RT performance.

See the reality is that AMD isn't letting Nvidia innovate their technologies first in a 4D chess move. The reality is that AMD simply has inferior engineers and it's time to stop making excuses for them. AMD had 3 generations now to catch up yet the pattern is obvious. They will always be a generation behind in Ray Tracing just like how they were behind in DX11 during GCN era.

I wouldn't say that they are necessarily inferior, but that they have another focus. For instance, it seems that AMD focused more on efficiency this time around, both in terms of power efficiency and in terms of production with turning to a chiplet-based design.

Also, they probably have much less ressources, as AMD needs to to split theirs between their CPU and GPU markets, sometimes having to heavily favor one over the other, even. This can make a big difference when it comes to coming up with new stuff if you don't have the ressources to make them work in due time.

Finally, it's possible that AMD just introduced RT as a counter to NVidia but didn't fully believe this would go so big and thus didn't grant it the amount of ressources it would have needed during the design phase of RDNA3, which was years in the past, and couldn't rectify this anymore when they saw where the market is going to. So let us hope that next time AMD doesn't make this mistake and gives RT the full attention as it is really needed to keep up with NVidia from here on out.

Yea I wouldn't believe in that marketing nonsense about focusing on efficiency. The only reason they said they focused on efficiency is because they created an arch that couldn't compete. I do agree with you on the other two points though.