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JEMC said:

Captain_Yuri said:

So today is the big day for Radeon team. AMD launched Zen 4 which was overpriced and is now selling similar to Rocket Lake numbers which is a CPU that launched in 2021. Meanwhile Zen 3 has the lead in sales while Intel's Alder/Raptor Lake is in second position thanks to the value the i5/i7 + cheap Z690 boards.

So their new CPU gen has largely been a flop, least until 7000X3D comes out. Now comes Radeon and Nvidia has largely played their cards which while the 4090 is very fast, we have seen tons of issues during launch such as driver problems and cable fires as well as a lack of DP 2.0. First two of the issues can/will be fixed so the important thing Radeon knows is the 4090 performance in every metric.

So for Radeon to win a generation so they can finally get above 20% market share, they need imo the 3 pillars that gamers want: Raster, Ray Tracing and Reflex.

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Sinc eyou've given your opinion, I'll give mine: if anyone actually belives that AMD will get "close" (say, 15-20%) of Nvidia in terms of ray tracing, they're nuts and will be greatly disappointed. But not by AMD, but by themselves because of their own unreasonable expectations.

If AMD manages increase their RT performance by two or two and a half times, that will already be great, and if they go as far as triple their RT performance, then that would be awesome.

When it comes to raster, AMD already showed great performance with RDNA3, so I hope they haven't forgotten about that and manage to end roughly on par with Ada, maybe even surpassing it slightly.

As for their conterpart to Reflex, I have no idea. We don't know how AMD is going to do that (heck, we don't even know what are they going to come up with!), and so it's impossible to make a prediction. Or, at least, I can't.

So yeah, and again, imho, AMD's best case here is to get roughly on par in raster, to not be ridiculed with RT, and fight (as usual) with a lower price.

But well, we'll know in a bit more than an hour.

It's unreasonable yes but it's the type of RT leap AMD needs to compete. Virtually every new game that's coming out has some form of RT and older gamers are getting updated with RT. RT is a big selling point because most people don't want to upgrade to a new generation without cutting edge features and performance. On the other hand as with RDNA 2 prices this month, if AMD prices their GPUs accordingly to their RT performance, then it's a moot point.

And of course, we have a third competitor from Intel who has proven that competitive RT performance is doable and they are following in Nvidia's footsteps with XeSS. If Intel can get rid of their driver issues to a large enough degree, AMD will need to worry about them as well but that won't be an issue for a long time.

But yea, overall, it will be interesting to see what happens in an hour. At the very least, we will have AMD sponsored games that will start looking like they have RT instead of glorified SSR. The two games they are showing, one of them was being touted by devs to being RT heavy as an option so there may be hope.

JEMC said:

Captain_Yuri said:

Finally MS is bringing PC features to their first party games

FSR 2.2? Weren't we on version 2.1?

Yee AMD and Nvidia are coming out with revisions pretty fast. I'll be interested to see if AMD goes Ai Upscaling during their press conference.