Leetgeek said:
starcraft said:
Leetgeek said:
Well considering that McCains plan for Iraq is the same as Bush forget it. I think Obama would be better. I think a sack of dog crap would be better. |
Wow. You're really buying the Obama hype train huh?
McCain has VERY different policies to George Bush on a whole range of issues including Iraq. Ironically, the main issue where McCain shares a viewpoint with Bush is immigration, and Democrats actually don't mind Bush's policy of allowing illegal immigrants to apply for citizenship.
As for Iraq, there are not two policy arguments that dictate either for or against.
McCain has opposed loads of Bush's operational decisions in Iraq. Again ironically, the only major one he DIDN'T oppose was the surge which seems to be working.
I can't bring myself to say going to Iraq was a good idea. But when I think about the fact that on September 11, 2001 every Islamic Militant in the world rose up in dedication to America's destruction, and despite this there has not been a SINGLE successful attack on America since, I have to ask myself if Bush has done exactly what he promised to do: protect the USA from terrorism.
Certainly he did some dumb and highly unethical things (declaring WMD's were in Iraq on shoddy evidence anyone?), but that doesn't mean he was wrong to think invading Iraq would help keep terrorism clear of the USA. You have to wonder how the whole thing would have gone down if McCain had been at the helm of the military from the beginning. He wanted to send more troops in the first place. Imagine if the surge numbers had been there from the beginning and the militants had never become entrenched.........
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Let me tell you somthing: I live in Manhattan. I was 1/2 a mile from ground Zero on 911. I don't need to describe to you the rage I felt watching those planes slam into those towers. I don't need to tell you how you could smell the burning bodies for weeks afterwards. Then your boy Bush sends our troops into IRAQ? What about Osama Bin Ladin? What like him and Sadamm were chilling up in IRAQ? There were no weapons of mass destruction! There isn't even any oil to jack!
Now our boys (and girls) out there and sit and wait to die. They don't even get to die in combat with honor. They're running over land mines. They come home with no arms. No legs. Or tagged in a bag. And where is Osama Bin? He's still free. And I'm still disgusted.
3rd Bush term? More of my fellow countrymen dead in Iraq? Hell no!
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You haven't read what I said or paid attention to what Obama has said. If McCain is the same as Bush on Iraq... so is Obama. Because they have basically the exact same plan.
Leave as soon as the Iraq Military can protect Iraq.... but keep a permanent force in there.
You buy into the buzz words and don't listen to what the candidates actually say on their own policies.
