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Eagle367 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

They're not disingenuous comparisons, they're exactly what you're asking for. You're asking for a system where certain people are prevented from even being allowed to run for a political position based on their opinions on certian matters. You're asking for a discriminatory system, one that's inherently un-democratic. Nobody should have the right to determine who can and can't run, that makes them far too powerful and the system far too easy to manipulate.

Not on opinions, on actions they will take aka dismantling democracy just like I keep saying putin and orban and erdogan and modhi did or doing. It is a discriminatory system. It discriminates against those wanting to destroy it. The system is not undemocratic, but a specific action is. My point is democracy can't survive without discriminating against bad faith actors. So ultimately the point is, do you want to feel better about purity or do you want a system that will survive for a long time and that is resilient to real world opponents of democracy. Preventing someone from killing others is restricting their freedom but for a free society, you need to stop actions that end their freedom. Your freedom ends where another's begins. And you are taking democracy away from others by trying to get an anti democratic force into power.

How many of those people ran their campaign on the basis of eventually becoming a dictator? And even if they did, if they win then that's literally democracy in action (unless the vote was rigged of course).

Democracy is a shit system, you may not like some of those shitty parts, but they are still undoubtedly a part of democracy.