The US is ranked as a 'Flawed Democracy', what needs to change?

[Eagle367]

Ka-pi96 said:

Eagle367 said:

You keep ignoring what I am saying and making bad comparisons that you know are disingenuous.  You are taking away democracy from the people if you let a monarchist or fascist run. Your democracy won't survive. The putin example you made, it's exactly how putin got in power in the first place. Same with Orban. They ran in a vulnerable democrats with no protections against bad faith actors and then they dismantled democracy. If you don't protect your democrats you end up like Russia or Hungary or turkey or India. Trump wanted to do this too. 

You are taking choice away from all future people just for one instance of a decision. What about the future people who will be forced to live under a monarch with no democracy anymore? So your argument is let the people kill democracy and offer no protections for its continued existence?

They're not disingenuous comparisons, they're exactly what you're asking for. You're asking for a system where certain people are prevented from even being allowed to run for a political position based on their opinions on certian matters. You're asking for a discriminatory system, one that's inherently un-democratic. Nobody should have the right to determine who can and can't run, that makes them far too powerful and the system far too easy to manipulate.

Not on opinions, on actions they will take aka dismantling democracy just like I keep saying putin and orban and erdogan and modhi did or doing. It is a discriminatory system. It discriminates against those wanting to destroy it. The system is not undemocratic, but a specific action is. My point is democracy can't survive without discriminating against bad faith actors. So ultimately the point is, do you want to feel better about purity or do you want a system that will survive for a long time and that is resilient to real world opponents of democracy. Preventing someone from killing others is restricting their freedom but for a free society, you need to stop actions that end their freedom. Your freedom ends where another's begins. And you are taking democracy away from others by trying to get an anti democratic force into power.