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ConservagameR on 27 October 2022
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Hiku said:
ConservagameR said:
Jumpin said:

In case anyone missed it, this is Conservagamer showing that not even in a picture worth a thousand words can he find a lick of evidence for his argument of people being silenced.

The EIU lists the US as a flawed democracy, but freedom of speech is the one area the country does exceedingly well in—scoring 9.58/10 on the EIU’s democracy index.

Why did Elon and Kanye not care at all about control over social media, only being able to use it themselves, until somewhat recently?

Why did they then both go out of their way to spend ridiculous amounts of money to have full control over these so called free speech platforms?

To fix them because so many people are being wrongly silenced, and to own the platforms themselves to make sure they won't ever be silenced.

Want to make sure that you or others can speak freely? Don't rely on democratic rights or morals, instead rely on the free market and capitalism to make yourself (tens of) billions of dollars, otherwise you very well may be kept quiet.

Define wrongly silenced?
Because Twitter decides who and what they want to give their microphone to. What is right or wrong on their platform has to adhere to their community guidfelines and terms of service.

Should anyone be able to say anything they like, including death threats and harassment?
Do you think every person we've ever moderated on this forum was wrongly silenced as well?
Because if your answer is no, then understand that this isn't an issue of a universal right or wrong, but that different people will draw the lines differently.

And to answer your rhetorical question, Musk and Kanye are interested in erasing that line for things like hate speech and baseless/harmful missinformation.
And I don't think that's admirable.

If Elon takes Twitter and makes it so that anyone who seems to be on the (far) left gets kicked off and silenced, because enough users are complaining, that would be wrong, for example.

You can't really argue community guidelines, because those change depending on who's in charge, and we all know they'll change at Twitter, potentially vastly, once Elon is in charge. So were the old guidelines wrong, or will the new guidelines be wrong?

This is why the free market and capitalism are both so great and so terrible. It allows for businesses like Twitter to exist, and it also allows them to be purchased and changed. Which is better or worse depends on your personal outlook.

You know there are laws about certain speech, but few laws, as the more speech you can justly allow, the better. There are also rights, both of which, including laws, aren't always upheld and aren't always punished as they should be. How do we fix that? More policing at different levels? Isn't that a bad thing?

I agree they will erase some lines, which is good, depending on what's erased. When you have people like Mark Zuck, admitting the FBI was giving him a heads up to squash upcoming stories that are likely misinformation, only to find out they were always legit, that's a big deal and needs to be fixed. The way to fix it is to allow media to choose what to allow and what not to, without being pressured by the government or authorities, because that can go both ways.