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Machiavellian said:
ConservagameR said:

If you're scared, go to church, said the company who accidentally, yet knowingly, dropped a billion dollars and didn't bother to pick it up.

That MS seems to be straying from XB owners.

With XB One it was the console will become an interactive TV media box, plus it'll also still play some games.

Now it's an XB console is only partially necessary because Game Pass isn't everywhere yet.

In the near future it'll be you don't even need an XB console at all.

The final step is no longer making XB hardware, and this step could come with or without Game Pass becoming successful.

Hmm, I do not believe you understand the term if you are scared go to church with your reply.  Meaning if you can drop a billion on a failed project can keep going, its highly doubtful you are scared.  Scared companies never risk anything, so they never get above the pack.

So how exactly is MS straying from Xbox owners?

Would you say Sony purchasing Crunchyroll, Sony straying from Playstation owners.  It's not like MS as a company is just made of the gaming division.

Who cares about Xbox one, that was another head of Xbox initiative so why are you talking about a project headed by another person who does not run anything at MS anymore.  Talk about the current person in charge and their goal.

Doesn't matter if GP isn't everywhere yet.  Companies do not make investment thinking things will suddenly become successful overnight.  Companies make investment to build on where they are and expand for future growth. GP is a service that differentiate MS gaming division from their immediate and future rivals and it's a service that they can pour a lot of investment in because they have the software and hardware to back it up including the money to make it work.  This would be no different than how Amazon became big or even Netflix since they were running in the red for a while before they built their service to the point where they make billions.  

Who knows, you might not need an Xbox console in the future, but I am sure MS will still continue to produce one just like they still produce mobile phones, laptops and other devices because it serves to help keep consumers invested in their eco system.

The key is that you have absolutely nothing to base your opinion.  My opinion is based on the current head of Xbox which from the moment Phil has taken over, he has made it his duty to make sure the Xbox hardware is competitive on all fronts.  There has been no evidence that his vision has change and really there is no reason why it should.  MS want to serve games no matter what hardware you own just like they want you to run their OS and service on anything you own but they also would love for you to use their hardware because it locks you into their ecosystem. None of this would change if GP is a success, instead MS as a business isn't putting everything on just the console being a success because at the end of the day, it's the games that are what we sign up for not the piece of plastic.

If a company like XB, through MS, can drop billions and not care, then they aren't scared, because it's not a risk to them, since that's just a drop in the bucket for them. Someone like MS doesn't, go to church, because there's no reason to be scared themselves, as well as they're people of science no doubt. A lack of fear is also unhealthy and dangrous.

Sony Pictures bought Cruchyroll I believe, and it was going to be used to boost streaming. Since that didn't really work out, Sony has taken a new approach since. Which is just another example of why I'm skeptical about Game Passes future and it's value to XB owners.

Phil Spencer is or was pretty big on backwards compatibility, and that was a big deal for XB owners was it not, so isn't the past important, or do those old games and consoles not matter?

Does MS make Kinect anymore? I thought that was a big deal that they poured a ton of money into after being somewhat successful on the 360?

Phil changes his mind all the time. Backwards compatibility was a future direction for XB under Phil, until it wasn't, and stopped. He was all about power, moving on from XB One with XB One X, only to launch the Series S.

That piece of plastic is the hardware that XB owners use to play their games. If they don't care about it, I don't understand the fuss about XB One X and XB Series X, being the most powerful hardware ever. It sure seems to be important and mean a lot to XB owners.