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Captain_Yuri said:

Pretty much. Nvidia became the scalper this time around. The Ampere launch was mindblowing when they announced the prices but this time though... Oh Boy...

I think I can get why they made DLSS 3.0 Lovelace exclusive. I think it's a purely a hardware limitation considering they are now going to start inserting frames instead of just pixels. So the computational performance uplift of Tensor cores is certainly needed and Ampere has 320 vs 1400 on Lovelace. Doesn't mean it's a good thing though.

And yea, this makes me worried about RDNA 3 because we know Nvidia won't price it like this unless either they are going very cocky or they know RDNA 3 won't perform as good. I think RDNA 3's Raster performance will continue to be competitive but Ray Tracing and DLSS will be lightyears ahead with Lovelace. Sucks all around though because that pricing is hard to swallow for 99% of the people. And they may as well have invited Don Mattrick when they showed off that Ampere pricing lmao. They may as well have said, "oh you can't afford Lovelace? Buy Ampere instead!"

Personally I'm hoping for some form of backlash, because this isn't good shit for us in general, since we're clearly entering another global recession, but who am I kidding?, the ppl that can easily afford the 80/90 series are going to buy them and Nvidia are going to remain super ultra deluxe, penthouse suite levels of comfortable, that they won't want to budge from the current plans they've laid out.

I hate how I used to be in the Ti bracket, but then when you were talking about going for an 80 series, I was like "eh not a bad idea", but now the 70 series has been made the 80 line, and the 80 the 90, and I just feel super shafted, price/perf wise.

I'm not only gonna blame nvidia and scalpers for this, but the god damn Titan series for introducing this stupid gap Nvidia felt like it had to maintain, even if it meant morphing the 70's into 80's and the 80's into 90's and now the 90's into 90ti's, it's all so fucking artificially stupid. 

Like just go back to us having 70/80's, I'm fine with that, but not 50/50ti, 60/60ti, 70/70ti, 80/80ti, 90/90ti, because that's just really fucking stupid and completely saturates the market and makes power gains per card almost pointless.

I think crypto mining is what fucked everything up. Before, GPU launches used to be simple and predictable because companies knew that in order to sell, they had to put gamers first. There was no free ticket and while Titan and Halo products were a thing, we always had that bang for buck GPUs.

Now it's like... Pascal launched with great prices and performance. Crypto boom happened during the end of Pascal, GPU manufacturers made a ton of money, there was oversupply due to crash and flooding in the GPU market and Turing prices got goofed. Fair enough, happened once... But then... Ampere launched with great prices and performance, crypto boom happened but this time, during the majority of Ampere's life, GPU manufacturers made a ton of money, Crypto crashed, there is now an oversupply and GPUs being flooded into the market. And now Lovelace prices are goofed.

It's all dumb and this hobby keeps getting more and more expensive. We used to have potato masher builds from Kepler all the way to mid Pascal that truly showcased the value of PCs. Now it's like, PC gaming is for the rich. GPU prices going up, CPU prices going up, Motherboard prices going up, Ram prices were already up and since they are all increasingly more power hungry, you need a new PSU and electricity prices are going up. It's so dang annoying.

But I think once I get the 4090, I'll stick with it for a while instead of continuing my GPU upgrades every two years.