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Shadow1980 said:
SvennoJ said:

True, it depends on what you consider a healthy market to be. It's still healthy in the sense that it has matured and will stick around like it currently is.

However the growth has gone and all the claims that publishers keep making bigger and bigger profits is what I have my doubts with. The main argument against raising prices seems to be "pure greed".

Consoles are one of those markets that has essentially reached the steady state part of their existence. The only thing keeping hardware sales strong over time is the periodic release of new systems, but the percentage of people in the main three markets (NA/EU/JP) willing and able to buy one has essentially maxed out. The console market showed growth in the 80s & 90s, but there's just no more room for growth unless markets outside the main three start to adopt consoles en masse.

It's a common thing with consumer electronics. For example, TVs had a period of exponential sales growth in the U.S. in the 1950s, but the growth slackened as market penetration reached near-saturation levels and the vast majority of households had a TV. The advents of color TV and later HDTV reset the cycle, similar to console generations. Still, once everyone has a TV, people will only buy more to either A) replace broken units, B) upgrade to a better model, or C) have extra screens in the house. It's kept a steady revenue stream, but not a growing one in real terms, and the period of exponential growth in TV sales died in the 60s.

But if perpetual growth is what is needed for a business to be considered "healthy," then capitalism itself is terminally ill.

I guess the discussion is market growth being almost zero, still having steady revenue stream, but increasing cost. How long will that be healthy?

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."