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JEMC said:

Captain_Yuri said:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Rumored To Be Slower Than RTX 3070 Ti, AD106 & AD107 GPUs Utilize PCIe x8 Interface

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-slower-than-rtx-3070-ti-ad106-ad107-gpu-pci-x8-interface-rumor/

As usual for post Turing, the lower you go, the less of a performance jump you get. On the bright side, least this will be more powerful than a ps5 regardless which will hopefully mean cheaper PCs.

Two things come to mid from that article:

1) Anyone on a pre-Alder Lake/Zen4 system will get screwed because that also limits the cards to x8 PCIe 4.0 on those systems. And there's a lot of mid-range gamers that won't upgrade yet. 

So, those that wanted to make just a CPU upgrade on their AM4 systems to keep up while they wait for AM5 to mature will have to keep their current GPUs or go for something like a 4060Ti or higher. But how many people that can afford one of those GPUs will "go cheap" with their CPU/system?

And 2) While the jump in performance to someting between the 3070 and 3070Ti doesn't sound like much, a quick loot at the database from TechPowerUp tells us something else:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060.c3682

A 50% increase doesn't sound too bad, at least on systems with a PCIe 5.0 slot.

Well actually. It's more like pre-PCI-E Gen 4 that will get screwed. Since Lovelace is going to have PCI-E Gen 4, PCI-E Gen 4 platforms will get full bandwidth from Lovelace GPUs even if it is just x8. But if you pair it up with a platform that is PCI-E Gen 3, that's when the issue arises:

PCI-E Gen 4 on motherboard + x8 PCI-E Gen 4 GPU = 16GB/s = Full bandwidth going to the Lovelace GPU
PCI-E Gen 3 on motherboard + x8 PCI-E Gen 4 GPU = 8GB/s = Half bandwidth going to the Lovelace GPU

So if you have a PCI-E Gen 4 system, you have nothing to worry about. The real kicker is how AMD decided to mess with the CPU configurations on Ryzen 5000. 5600G/5700G are all PCI-E Gen 3 so even if you pair them up with a Gen 4 motherboards, you will get Gen 3 speeds. One of the main reasons I said to avoid that CPU line. So we can't even say, pre-zen 2 either.

And yea, you do have a good point. I forgot how big of a leap the 3070/Ti is.