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Azzanation said:
ConservagameR said:

As to your prior Nin point, things haven't always been the same. Nintendo Power is no longer the hardware direction, so why is it ok for that to change, since you also imply you're ok with Nintendo making money on the hardware. What about those gamers who lived and breathed Nintendo Power? Why is it only ok for Nin to charge too much and screw over the consumer, but not anyone else?

Was XB One screwing over the consumer until they finally removed the Kinect? Why didn't they leave the Kinect in and drop $100 like a good caring company would? The same reason they didn't include a disc drive in the Series S? What's another $25?

If budget doesn't mean anything when it comes to quality, why make big budget games at all? Why not make a ton of tiny budget games, instead of just a few big budget games, because you'd be far more likely to end up with way more quality based on quantity?

So is online for PC all garbage? It's free right? So it must be garbage? How could it be any good? Does PC use Live or PSN?

You mean change like costs going up due to inflation, and companies explaining that they're raising prices because of that? With the rare company like MS saying they aren't, while not explaining why, because saying, we're worth trillions so it means nothing, would be bad PR?

Both PS and XB charge more for their hardware outside of the US, so they both suck? That's a shame.

XB hasn't ever had to do well for shareholders period. Must be nice getting a free ride.

Isn't supporting something you find reasonable and enjoy, how things are supposed to work? Support them or they'll go away? That's a problem?

If you like your hard earned money going to scalpers to buy even more hardware to scalp at increased prices, at the end of the day, that's your choice. Me personally, I'd rather give it to the gaming company to reinvest in the hobby I enjoy. That's just me.

1) I don't understand your point with Nintendo Power and how that even relates to this subject.

2) XB1 was selling at a higher cost due to a bundled product that was valued at $150 (Depending where you are from) So you are paying more for more.

3) Google the most profitable games in history, and you will sadly find out the truth.

4) PC online is awesome, more options, more features, more of more and its free. PSN was unprotected and had a host of issues before the pay wall came in.

5) Xbox has shareholders to please, however its a lot easier to beat your last product if your last product didn't sell as well as it should.

6) You are supporting greed. Might as well high five your land lord for raising the price on your rent because you support the idea. High five the petrol prices going up to while you are at it.

7) Bottom line, offer more or improve the product to charge more. Don't just charge more because a corp gave you reasons. How do you think the rich become richer.

1) Because you keep changing what you originally said.

2) Since when was a camera with the console normal? That's not an extra? Extra materials, which should not be a cost to the consumer?

3) Like point 1, where you keep changing what you said. Originally this point was about quality, not profits. Since when have big blockbuster AAA first party games been about profits? They were always there, along with the the hardware to bring you in, then make bank off those other high profit games. 

Sony making big money off their AAA is relatively new, a change, so is that also anti consumer? All those PS4 games were too expensive, along with PS5 games?

4) How could PC online be awesome while free, but PSN was junk? What about $60 XB Live and free Live for PC?

5) Subsidizing billions isn't pleasing unless the outcome is massive profits. Continually making up for billions lost in the past isn't pleasing to shareholders. 

6) Sony didn't cause inflation. Gas companies didn't cause inflation. Why aren't any of these energy mega corps selling gas at 2018 prices?

7) They offer you more, that's worthy, and charge for it, with profits included in the price, based on economics. If anything changes, you get less or more of many things.

Sometimes they try and force you to pay for more for what's in the box even though you don't want everything in the box, and don't want to pay that much or for the extra. Sometimes they try and take away future options, and then flip a switch when they get enough push back. Sometimes this is because they are greedy.