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ConservagameR on 04 September 2022
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Azzanation said:
ConservagameR said:

These businesses aren't fully guaranteed input costs or sales. Not long term anyway.

PS5 was just starting to make a profit back then, yet the cost to produce PS5 went up shortly after, and the price to the consumer didn't. Not until recently. The changes made to PS5 saved next to nothing in material cost. Shipping weight is where there would be a little savings.

I wonder how much Sony lost that entire time? I wonder if Sony more recently looked deep ahead and see's things getting worse, knew they couldn't hold out too much longer, so decided to make the move sooner than later? Might as well rip the band aid off if you're going to have to.

Is XB and MS too greedy since they're not charging $199 and $399 for S and X? We all know they could afford to. Why isn't Game Pass cheaper? I'm pretty sure MS could've left the XB One Kinect in the box and still charged $399, matching PS4. Why did they remove Kinect then charge $399?

How much does a business have to eat or subsidize to be a good worthy company?

Material costs should not fall under the consumers problem. Also Sony and PS make billions and they will continue to make billions. Hardware is not always profitable yet for some reason this gen, Sony believes its worth raising. Pretty big coincidence that they want to raise the hardware costs while also being the one pushing that $70 games model. 

Xbox are not raising their prices neither is Nintendo and its fair to say the Series X possibly costs more to manufacture than the PS5 yet no nudge in a price hike. 

Believe what you will, however you continue to defend this, you will continue to pay more long term.

It takes materials to construct those consoles, and if materials aren't the consumers problem, then? Free consoles for everyone?

Sony launching this gen, late 2020, with a fair warning of an increase to software pricing due to rising costs of game development and game quality, vs, Sony increasing the hardware pricing almost 2 years into the gen, after a year or more of not just inflation, but rather quickly and continually rising inflation?

That's a big coincidence? I dunno bout you, but for me, if the PS5 was $529, $549, or $599, at launch, that would've been a big coincidence considering XB Series X was only $499. It would've been clear that Sony feels they can just charge more because they feel like it at that point. The Sony game price increase also isn't a coincidence, especially when you compare their first party output and quality vs XB. 

Hasn't Sony also been growing it's software development through internal growth along with acquisitions? Are they doing that all purely by choice? Is some or much of it due to competitive compulsion? Could Sony afford quick growth like that as things were?

Don't you wish we had more XB numbers so we could be more accurate in our assessments? It would be nice.

"Think of my acts as you will, but do not doubt the reality, the reclamation... has already begun".

Sorry, but that instantly popped into my head when I read your, "believe what you will" remark. It's such a great line for an ending.

As for continuing to pay more and more, not likely, but possible, though every time that happens, the competition eventually follows suit, so ya know.