| JEMC said: While a CPU upgrade to a 5000 series model will, no doubt about it, bring a big improvement in performance to gtotheunit91's PC, it's worth keeping in mind that we don't know how tech savvy he is or how willing he is to update the BIOS of its motherboard. Heck, we don't even know if his motherboard was qualified to get Ryzen 5000 series support! |
Don't disagree with that at all.
Whenever an upgrade/system replacement gets undertaken, the appropriate assessments need to be made to weigh the positive/negatives of each approach.
But historically, upgrading just the CPU has been the most economical price/performance increase for AMD platforms due to socket longevity.
| Captain_Yuri said: Personally I think he should upgrade to 5800X3D when Ryzen 7000 comes out as I am sure it will be half the price since CPUs go down in price quickly when a new one comes out. That way he doesn't have to buy a new motherboard and new ram with it. And since a 5800X3D can trade blows with a 12900k and Ryzen 7000 should be around the 12900k performance... That's a lot of savings that can be spent on a beefier GPU or hookers. Could be the difference between getting a 4070 or a 4080. |
The 5800X3D is a viable choice too.
I guess I just like the sheer thread counts of the Ryzen 9 chips... But I am doing tasks other than gaming. - Plus if you have the proper cooling and power delivery, they can turbo to 5ghz.
I think the days of recommending higher core count chips for gaming over the long term has pretty much ended now... I.E. Core 2 Quad over Core 2 Duo, Core 980X 6 core over the quads. - Those systems got longer gaming shelf life because of the extra cores.
| Captain_Yuri said: Well all 300 series motherboards should now be compatible with 5000 series so if he has a 300 series and he is comfortable enough updating the BIOS, it should be compatible. But arguably, even X570 motherboards should get pretty big discounts. So in theory, lets say he has to upgrade his mobo as well: $200 5800X3D + $120 for X570 vs $300 for 7700X + $300 for X670 + $200 for DDR5 So the difference will be $320 vs $800. And a lot of the X670 boards that are launching are coming out with Gen 4 PCI-E for GPU and not the Gen 5 because according to AMD, it's optional for X670. So most if not all of the launch motherboard manufacturers are leaving PCI-E Gen 5 for the more expensive X670E platform. And while AM5 will be supported for longer if you want to upgrade the CPU, the difference in price seems silly if the performance upgrade is as minor as AMD themselves are claiming. Because you can save that and buy a 4080 and see 3-3.5x the performance increase compared to a 2080 vs 2-2.3x if you get a 4070. And of course, if later down the line, he does want to upgrade to AM5 platform, the mobo and ram will be much cheaper. |
Considering his DDR4 memory is likely sub-3600mhz and potentially not dual-ranked, I wouldn't considering getting a new x570 board. Older systems are just about doing a single upgrade to get a performance boost, once we start replacing more than one component, it's better to do a whole platform change.
Because if his board isn't compatible with the 5000 series, it should be compatible with something like the Ryzen 3950X which will double performance in mult-threaded scenarios and upowards or 20-30% in single threaded... And they can be had fairly cheap these days.
It's all about weighing up options, obviously he isn't afraid to keep his system for several years if it's still doing a good job.
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