Shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas (19 Students, 2 Teachers Dead)

[ConservagameR]

sundin13 said:

ConservagameR said:

Yes that is true. Turning a blind eye isn't acceptable. Which solutions are acceptable looks to be the hold up though.

Doesn't Chicago have the most strict gun laws in the US? Like extremely strict compared to everywhere else? If that's not enough than what is? How can you have laws that strict and still have so many gun deaths?

Chicago and Illinois do have somewhat strict gun laws, but they are generally not considered to be abnormally strict or the most strict in the country at this time. However, even if they were it wouldn't be proof that gun laws don't work. It is instead proof that the effects of local gun laws are limited by the fact that guns can readily flow in from other states or counties. 

And that is the reality of Chicago's gun violence problem. The majority of crime guns come from out of state. This is a pattern we often see in areas with strict local gun laws. The guns come from other parts of the country with weaker gun laws. This is why we cannot simply leave firearms laws as a state's rights issue. It needs to be handled consistently across the country in order to have a strong effect on reducing gun violence. This also shows how important the legal market is in feeding the illegal market. 

Even if you were able to get rid of the guns on a federal level, what about all the bad guys in Chicago and everywhere else who were bringing these guns in?

They won't bring them in across the northern border from Canada? They wouldn't try to get them in from Mexico?

Even if you could stop that as well, are they really going to stop killing people just because they don't have guns?

Other countries who've banned guns have growing problems with other weapons now like knives. To the point they require a background check.

Banning one thing after another doesn't seem like the best course of action if the bad guys are just going to find a way around it and continue.