Shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas (19 Students, 2 Teachers Dead)

[cyberninja45]

JWeinCom said:

cyberninja45 said:

OK

We have established that the U.S. cannot follow other countries. It is your right to bear arms in the country. Its the SECOND Amendment for godsake. It's almost like the right to life.  I bet countries that ban or infrige the right to life problably "solved" alot of problems human make with great success.

So knowing you cannot remove or infringe this right, but they have mass shootings that happen practically nowhere else but in these completely unnesseccary gun free zones or zones with low arm bearing..and there is no right to gun free zones in the constitution(actually goes agianst the constitution,so probably relatively easy to do politically). Therefore remove and discouraged gun free zones everywhere possible. At least remove them and see that happens.

And please dont make the argument that being gun free has nothing to do with it. We'll see what happens.

Always fun when people with know knowledge of the law try to make arguments about it.

First off, the amendments are not ranked. Freedom of speech is not more important to the right to a speedy trial. The order is irrelevant.

More importantly, the government can absolutely infringe on any constitutional right. Even ignoring the vast interpretation issues of holding the second amendment to protect modern weapons, rights are not absolute. Statutes that potentially infringe on constitutional rights are subject to strict scrutiny, generally. If a statute is related to a legitimate public concern and is the narrowest away to achieve that goal, then it can be passed. Because common sense. Only a complete putz would think freedom of speech means you can say anything anywhere at anytime, or that the right to bear arms means you could have any weapon at any time in any place. Gun free zones have repeatedly been upheld as constitutional. And of course the second Amendment is an AMENDMENT. That means we changed the constitution, and we could do so again. We've done it 34 times. The Constitution isn't a tablet from mount sinai. 

As for school free zones, the last shootings have been at a McDonalds, not a gun free zone, a church, not a gun free zone, a supermarket, not a gun free zone, a private residence, not a gun free zone, at a small, not a gun free zone, the New York City subway, not a gun free zone, downtown Sacramento, not a gun free zone, a park, not a gun free zone, a high school, gun free zone, a supermarket, not a gun free zone, a concert, not a gun free zone, the VTA, not a gun free zone to my knowledge, a trailer park, not a gun free zone, a Fed Ex, not a gun free zone, a private residence, not a gun free zone, an office building, not a gun free zone, a supermarket, not a gun free zone, and a spa, not a gun free zone.

So, at best, abolishing gun free zones would have prevented 2 of the last 20 mass shootings.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 

Can the Federal government "infringe" to the scale where they follow other countries? (e.g. license to bear arms). No? OK

Did you read where I said and "or zones with low arms bearing"(which is basically just an unintended gun free zone) and this should be discouraged/avoided? No? OK

You really believe the constuition is not written in order of importance? No? Ok