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the-pi-guy said:
cyberninja45 said:

If you are talking about license to bear firearms. Yes it's no longer a right, or at least a highly infringed right

Also... The more armed guards the more shootings?

Armed guards didn't help Texas.

Why open with this meaningless statement. If the 2nd amendment gets repealed and a mass shooting still occurs eventually, Guess repealing the 2nd ammendment didn't help?

The school district had its own police department, a security guard. And there were police outside who were waiting for close to an hour while the shooting was going on.

What you mean by school district. The school itself wasn't a gun free zone?

Also.. . So shooting is going on and people who were hired to protect were eating popcorn watching the shooting or wateva. This is actually an argument supporting the second amendment. So teachers in the area should have been armed also.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/may/26/ted-cruz/research-armed-campus-police-do-not-prevent-school/

"A 2021 study conducted by researchers from University at Albany and RAND examined data from U.S. schools between 2014 to 2018 to evaluate the impact of school resource officers. It found that school resource officers "do effectively reduce some forms of violence in schools, but do not prevent school shootings or gun-related incidents."

In addition, that study found that school resource officers appear to protect students from "a non-trivial number of physical attacks and fights within schools," which could have long-term academic and psychological benefits for students. But schools with resource officers also report more suspensions, expulsions, police referrals and student arrests — and those harsher disciplinary punishments disproportionately fall on Black students, male students and students with disabilities.

Further, when researchers controlled for location and school characteristic factors, "the rate of deaths was 2.83 times greater (emphasis added) in schools with an armed guard present.""

Wtf is "rates of deaths". The question is if more arms guards present in an area increases mass shootings in an area. What the poster seem to imply.

The media pushes out this fantasy of a person with a gun stopping a shooting.

There are a lot of issues with that.

Those people often inadvertently cause a shooting, because they are an access point to get a gun, often times through carelessness. 

A lot of people are just flat out not trained for a gun. Some people should never get trained to use a gun.

Even when people are somewhat trained, they are still at a disadvantage. People who shoot up a school tend to have some kind of mental issue, and oftentimes are prepared to not make it out alive, and they're a lot more willing to take someone else's life than a sane person is willing to take theirs.

A lot of these people are genuinely suicidal, and are just trying to take people out with them. So threats of armed guards could actually be encouraging for them.

Just because there are occasionally some stories where a good guy with a gun does stop the bad guy, doesn't mean that would be the norm. It's not something that should be expected.

The mainstream media in America seems very anti second ammendment. If mainstream you are referring to.

Also the argument is if areas with high gun bearing population deters or stops mass shootings.



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