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Captain_Yuri said:
JEMC said:

Yeah, that's their whole point. With that said, I hope it backfires and a lot of people will ask them for the repair kit because that doesn't look cheap, especially with shipping.

Captain_Yuri said:

That would certain be an interesting idea but idk if AMD will go that route anytime soon since they could sell you a dGPU instead. But maybe later down the line, that would be pretty nuts.

Given the leaked diagram for an Asus board, I doubt AMD wil go that route as well

https://videocardz.com/newz/leaked-asus-x670-prime-pcb-diagram-for-amd-ryzen-7000-cpus-confirms-this-motherboard-has-it-two-chipsets

I expected the two chipsets to be together in the same package, not split and so far away one from the other.

I just hope those chipsets don't require active cooling like initial X570 boards. It is also very strange having two chipsets which suggests AMD is trying to add in additional IO capabilities but they aren't integrating that directly into the CPU. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

I think they are going to bifurcate PCI-E. PCI-E 4.0 unless you have that secondary chip which enables PCI-E 5.0 links.
I think one chipset will have PCI-E 5.0 for the SSD or GPU, but not both at the same time if I recall.

Not exactly the most elegant of solutions.

JEMC said:

I hadn't thought about the 4 vs. 8 cores design of Zen2 and 3, thanks for bringing that out.

Should mean an uptick in multi-threaded scenarios that extended past a single CCX as there is less of a latency/bandwidth hit with communication.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

From what I heard, Zen5 would be a much bigger upgrade, with an architecture overhaul. Zen4 seems more like a stopgap in between Zen3 and Zen5 since not much changes on the CPU side apart from the larger L2 cache.

For all intents, AMD was just rolling out new technology/platform with Zen4, rather than reinvent the performance wheel, DDR5, PCI-E 5.0, new socket and chipset designs, new I/O chip (No longer built at 14nm).
Every chip also becomes an APU now which would have some positive ramifications for workstations and hopefully video encode/decode if AMD doesn't castrate that.

I'll make the upgrade, mostly because I want more Ram, 128GB isn't enough for what I am trying to do... And an SSD that exceeds the limits of PCI-E 4.0... Sounds moist.

Last edited by Pemalite - on 24 May 2022

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